execution-style murder, classic, classic first-degree murder. any disagreement there? no disagreement bill. circumstantial evidence is not poor kid on the block not as good as direct evidence, the actual gun. that is how cases are built brick by brick on prosecutors. they had overwhelming circumstantial evidence here. it took the jury a while to go through it. the classic example, bill if someone comes here with umbrella dripping wet or shoes dripping wet do you need sid yo to see that is it is raining outside. could it be possible someone use ad fire hose on them? that is something the jury would figure out. martha: martha: he might have gotten parole after 15 years but just to clarify in massachusetts. first-degree murder is intentional killing without the planning and plotting ahead of time. martha: other than life in prison for him. unless they have successful
apocalyptic terrorists you clear the battlefield of the lawyers and do what it takes to win. that means killing them, remorsely ruthlessly, relentlessly nothing else works. martha: colonel peters. thank you very much. we have breaking news. we ll leave it there. bill: as we mention ad moment ago, fall river massachusetts, we re now awaiting the answer from seven women and five men. this from the trial of the former star tight end in the nfl, aaron hernandez, charged with killing odin lloyd back in june of 2013. lloyd was dating the sister of hernandez s fiance. he was shot six times in an industrial park near hernandez s home. we re told the 12-person jury reached their verdict moments ago, deliberating about a week s time. the questions on the charges are as follows. first-degree murder guilty or not guilty. illegal possession of a firearm guilty or not guilty. illegal possession of ammunition guilty or not guilty. those verdicts to be read in 15
so i see what you re doing here but i don t there is there is nothing there. martha: everybody who was at the table s idea what they agreed to, which is different things. bill: the point of that, you ve got a deadline coming up here in june what 2 1/2 months away. there is big question whether or not they have anything to show for come mid-summer or beyond that here we go. here we go. high-ranking state department official saying isis is considered, quote off the charts in its violence. it is nice to hear the the admin acknowledging what we ve been saying for months, that the growth of isis is explosive. bill: more on that moments from now. meantime breaking news out of massachusetts. there is a verdict that has been reached by the jury in the trial of aaron hernandez the former nfl star on trial for murder. we ll have that verdict in moments after this.
minutes based on reedout and direction we have from the court. we ll analyze that. we ll await the verdicts, from fall river massachusetts live here in america s newsroom, in a moment. miranda: i got red dirt stains on my boots and jeans. calloused fingers from my guitar strings. wild like the wind in the tall pine trees. i got roots and i got wings.
technical standpoint? cell phone surveillance video? is it common when you get a guilty verdict of this deagree, using, using technology essentially? yes. think of it this way bill. you can cross-examine and you can challenge the memory and the eyesight of an eyewitness. you can not cross-examine the information from a computer chip in a cell phone or on a video camera taken in the defendant s own house. so in some respects, circumstantial evidence is stronger than eyewitness testimony. it is, however unusual that an entire first-degree murder case first-degree murder planned, plotted, carrying the maximum penalty available in that jurisdiction, massachusetts as we know has no death penalty. it is unusual that entire first-degree murder case would rely exclusively on circumstantial evidence. this is one of those cases where