in super bowl 17 there was a newness. it depends oh little bit on how you approach it. it s not his second, third or fourth and he has the routine down well. bill: it s almost habit for him. joe, what do you think? do you favor new england and cheer for atlanta? that seems to be a trend. it is a trend. i think everybody is looking at the stars that are on the atlanta falcon offense. young defense that has a chance to gain some notoriety with a lot of young players, second year and third year players, rookies playing. in new england you have a lot of guys. 20 guys that have been in super bowls before. the secondary is well-known. i like new england in this one. defense wins championships. bill: great to have you back. shannon: he has something we will never have, a super bowl ring. see you in houston, thanks. on fox sunday night. we re awaiting president trump