they didn t choose mitt and didn t choose trump. it s a long, long process. i do think there is a fair point here about having a more upon message. i think the economic message resonates. it s a message the democrats need to be talking about more that the economy really has not been working for a lot of people. even though the numbers would make it seem like the economy is strong. people are still really struggling but there is a way to say it that actually resonates, i think with the industrial midwest and some of the rust belt states that we have lost in the 2016 race that we started to win back in some of the congressionals. really localizing it to a populist but positive message. do democrats face some of the same problems now in 2020 that republicans faced in 2012? you have to move so far to one extreme to win the primary, it makes it much more difficult to win the general. well, i think that we are in unchartered territory. the difference between 2008,
details you mentioned we don t? well, you know, the president has a unique way of expressing things and then many times he comes back in and adds the details later. at the end of the day, it s comforting that lindsey graham is satisfied he s a smart guy. he has been involved in this game a long time as long as we keep our foot in isis s back and keep them down and lont don t let them regain territory then we can work to their total erratic can a occasion. meantime as your people just said, we don t want to give iran any more space in syria to develop their axis of evil. leland: we certainly know that the iranians are working on that day and night. move you now to the issue of the government shutdown. the republicans come back now in the minority. one interesting thing i heard from some senior democrats is this idea of $5 billion is wanted by president trump. but they don t feel like he has given any real plan in terms of what this wall looks like. you re in the construction busines
potential suicide bombers before they ever reach a crowd or a target. of course, organizers had a lot of preparation of their own. on saturday did air one way or the otherness test of the 3 tons of confetti ready to drop onto the crowd. tested the bulb s 32,000 lights and drop switch. it s a lot of pressure with a billion people watching on tv. believe it or not, there have been mistakes in the past. you know, the first year i did this back in 1995, the ball was actually we used to do it by rope, six people. four men on ropes. there were supervisor and a man with a stop watch. even back n the 1950s the ball got stopped halfway during the celebration. we have come along way from the first new year s eve ball bulb in 1907. 25 light bulbs 25 watts each about what you would use for a table lamp. leland. leland: jackie, happy new year to you and yours. thanks for being out there for us. i m leland vittert in for
democrats will get out there and make happen i think that s how we win. do you think your politics are too polarizing for a national audience? you know, look, the way i see it right now, washington works great for giant drug companies. but just to the for people trying to get a prescription filled. washington works great for for profit colleges and student loan outfits, but not for young people who are getting crushed by student loan debt. and you could keep going through the list. the problem we have got right now in washington is that it works great for those who have got money to buy influence. and i m fighting against that and you bet it s going to make a lot of people unhappy. but, at the end of the day, i don t go to washington to work for them. our government should be working for the people and that s the movement i m going to lead.
given by the administration to really actually appropriate the $5 billion what the wall looks like, where it s going to be, what it needs to do? i have not seen a detailed analysis of where the money would go. i have seen some topical analysis. in fact, i asked him for that and suggested that they link the number of border crossings that would be interdicted by certain investments in wall and/or fence and/or whatever in different areas along the valley. i spent a lot of time in the valley. the valley and the whole rio grand border and the land border with arizona and new mexico is very complicated area. each area has much different characteristics. leland: by way of saying would it be better to figure out what to do in each one of those different areas you talk about and then how much it is going to cost and then go to congress with that or do the 5 billion upfront. i think it would give us a lot stronger position vis-a-vis the democrats to bombard the american people with real f