investigations that have nothing to do with the reality. but there is stopping the study of disinformation plays like stanford, university of washington. even places like harvard. they believe that the disinformation industry, people who are studying this stuff are actually the bad guys. there really, the united states government, in this way, is salting speech. the problem is actually the inverse. hopefully overtime, will start to realize who s actually giving silence here. i could talk to guys all day. appreciate both so much. nbc news senior reporter, ben collins and roger mckinney, major silicon valley investor, cofounder and author is up to, we can t do the facebook catastrophe. we ll be right back. l be right back.
a study of social media use leading up to the 2020 election showed conspiracy theories about election fraud got more than six times the engagement that real news stories about election coverage got on facebook. these two billionaires have been an ongoing digital battle throwing insults that i haven t heard since middle school. they ve apparently agreed to a physical real life cage fight and most recently musk challenge zuckerberg to a different kind of contest, i will not read it out loud. joining me now are the two guys i want to talk to most about this, senior porter for nbc news, ben collins, and roger mchenry, cofounder of elevation partners. former adviser to mark zuckerberg, the author of the book, zipped, waking up to the facebook catastrophe. i was thinking about both of you because i m fascinated, i m fascinated by how many people signed up for threads. because we want a cleaner, better, less anti democratic, less garbage filled, social media network. this is a facebook produc