the next few months whether he ll hope the door to a contest or move forward himself. real risks in that. in the last hour i spoke with rachel bade who described the finger pointing at senator mitch mcconnell and shifting the blame from trump to him. although we should note for the record it was mcconnell who exposed the extreme trump endorsed candidates that ended up losing. you know better than me that those who underestimate mitch mcconnell usually lose. is there a serious threat to his leadership in the senate. i don t think so. i would put money on it it is not a serious side. and look at the senate republicans versus the mabkeup f the house republicans. the people who signed that letter challenging kevin mccarthy, they urged alt trump electors. it is the most fringy extreme part of the republican party.
becomes about margins. we will hear about latino voters. we will hear stories of black voters and republicans play at the margins for some of these demographics. i wonder if you think the rise of someone like harry lake is supposed to be a wink and nod to new voters. i think it s interesting that you re talking about young voters. predominantly women young voters are really going to make a huge difference in this election. we are seeing them register in droves. for example, in idaho, since roe v. wade was overturned, women outnumber men by 20 points. women under 25. and so, sure, and there are these new extreme trump camp dog and pony show, flashing the smile, having their own instagram filter to do interviews. i think if you look at the energized base of these young women who ve never really turned out in these numbers
little bit more than you think they re saying right now. after january 6th, i thought you wrote a really important article the atlantic talking about attempt to go bring some of the trump supporters, more extreme trump supporters back into the mainstream of american politics, back into involvement in democracy. we have been looking at polls over the past six months, over the past year that show around the edges some americans becoming more skeptical of donald trump. i m wondering what you re seeing, former supporters, i m wondering what you re seeing now in these numbers that we have been discussing and also just general attitudes of republicans about whether we re moving in that direction or not, whether there may be enough americans skeptical of what donald trump has done since the election. we have a majority now saying that he committed a crime, that
emotional one? yeah. i think he did. i do think that convergence of that part of the speech with the policy agenda has opened him up to criticism that this is more about partisanship and democracy. but he s being very clear-eyed on the real threat. not only that the democracy faces but we ve seen unfold around january 6. and i think he has to continue to talk about that. it is the obligation of all officials and to keep laying out what is the solution. how do you put reforms into place that will check efforts to subvert our election system. you just mentioned this. that president biden called out the more extreme trump supporters as a threat to democracy and i want to go to what he said exactly. donald trump and the maga republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. there is no question that the
florida. who almost beat ron desantis in 2018. he was just indicted by the feds a couple weeks ago. a six-year investigation. yeah, the feds often take their time. i don t know that that s going to be the case here. jon meacham, i want to go back. we ve been talking about the violence that and the threats that the men and women of the fbi are enduring right now. that the national archives head is in fear of right now. you know, joe biden talked about maga trumpists, maga republicans, the most extreme trump supporters anti-fascist. there were people offended by it. the governor of new hampshire was offended, saying it was for