any time we shrink government rel capital is deployed to make us prosperous. rick, go ahead. when i tried to raise the question before, if you are saying that the shutdown resulted in more employment you said i was going off-point. david you just said maybe we should keep the government shutdown more often. that was not the question. we have to go to joe biden spending the obama stimulus where he said more government spending, more government borrowing. that s the way out of the recession. he said any month we ll be having 250,000 jobs an average a month. that never happened. you know what joe biden s twitter hashtag reads? #mythoughtsarefacts. because my thoughts are facts. what i think is not a fact. it s not. so if your contractor botched a job at your house do you hire them for more jobs? the government just did with the company behind the glitch
incredibly productive enterprisers. it shows you that even bad policy coming out of washington really can t kill that spirit. and by bad policy, you know, we have the administration, we have congress, the senate, the run-away federal bureaucracy, unstable money. a lot of head winds that hit america. we should be growing at 4%. rick, even the head of bureau of labor statistics the institution that comes out with the figures said really there was no discernible impact from the partial government shutdown and the jobs numbers. yeah. that is apparently true, although i have to say this the argument that this somehow boosted employment is interesting. because what you re saying is everybody got together no, no, no, no. hold on, hold on. don t misquote it. we re not saying it boosted up employment. we re saying it didn t have as detrimental effect on employment. the economy is rolling along especially with a smaller government. 17 days we re unfortunate we lost $25 billion in
signed on, on businesses are going to lose. they are estimating 93 million people will not have their insurance. they are going to be outraged. that is why this thing will collapse, among other reasons. but rick, you already have these things that have happened that weren t supposed to happen, right? yeah. things that have happened in the first 30 days. look, we seem to be fact challenged this morning. jon stewart has never let me underline never made fun of the program. he made fun of the execution of the program, something none of us are pleased with. rick, hold on a second. how much longer can you divide the execution of a program from the program itself? eventually they are the same thing. eventually they are. but if you think any rational person thinks that 30 days is enough to judge it, i don t know what you consider a rational person. perhaps, rich, jon stewart is not rational. he is not just laughing at the implementation of it.
you are talking about user fees tied to park admission and increase airport security. if you don t want to pay those fees you can opt out of taking advantage of those services. sales taxes are also voluntary as well. you don t have to buy the item. what about that? are they a tax or not, the new fees? sadly they become taxes. fee for legitimate service, fine. we saw the gal fund, they raided that. airport taxes supposed to go for the air traffic control. instead rated for other things. in this case it s sadly a tax. not a fee for a service. rick, even in president obama s budget he is calling for $300 billion in the new fees. i think both morgan and steve have it right. this is a user tax. it s not unfair to tax people for using something for somebody else doesn t use. why should i pay for a road i m not driving on. but steve is right, there are incidents where the fund is raided for other purposes. do user taxes but keep it segregated for the legitimate purpose. i want to
yes, he is. he is laughing of the fundamental basics of it. no, he s not. that young people will want to run out and buy something they didn t have to watch before. i don t know if you watch him, i watch every night. no, he is not laughing at that. at any rate, whoever is laughing at whatever, the fact is, rich, that the program just doesn t seem to be working. it s not just the rolling out of one part of it. i seems to be the whole thing. yeah. but i would like to point out that rick is among those who believes that obama didn t break his promise here either. no, i m not. no, i m not. you have tremendous problems here. look at the virginia governors race to go to steve s point of the political consequences of this unlaughing. terry mcauliffe in the governor s race in virginia had a 12 to 15-point lead two weeks before the election. then it became widely known that obama misspoke or however you want to characterize the broken promises. and the republican close the gap