so that goes to the experience point. paul martin, on this question of the conflict of interest we saw her with her husband there, city councilman plus the lack of murder case experience is that make it more likely as sara presented the possibility at the end there that she supervises, but gives it to another officer in her office. that s not unusual. most prosecutors, most prosecutors in every major metropolitan city they do not try the cases. they give it to their senior d.a. s to prosecute the case. i don t really see the conflict with the husband in light of the fact that she was elected while she was married to this councilman. so everyone knew the status of their situation when she was voted in. okay fair enough. so let s get to the charges involved here. and we have six different defendants and 28 different charges. but paul, this particular one, caesar goodson, he was the driver of the police wagon facing six charges, including second-degree murder depraved heart murder i