i m sally bundock. so let s now get down to business and it is the eve of cop 28 in dubai, where world leaders, government representatives and delegates will discuss ways to tackle climate change. this year, health will be at the heart of the summit with the first ever official health program. from the lab to the patient, the healthcare industry is responsible for twice the carbon emissions of the aviation sector. now rival ceos from seven of the biggest pharmaceutical companies, alongside the world health organization are set to decarbonise the sector and make healthcare more sustainable. i spoke to pascal soriot, the ceo of astrazeneca and is heading up the task force and paul hudson, the ceo of sanofi. i began by asking pascal what has already been achieved. each company card to reduce carbon emissions. as a company astrazeneca over the next few years we reduce carbon emissions by 60% even though the size of the company almost doubled. at the top 28 we are planning to anno
the production company podot. also with us is lewis goodall from the news agents podcast and tony pastor, the man behind goalhanger, which is the podcast production company he set up with gary lineker and makes all sorts of hit podcasts, including the rest is history, the rest is politics. there s something very intimate about listening to a podcast i mean, in many ways, a bit like radio where people have their headphones on, they re cooking, they re commuting, they re walking the dog and they get very, very close to the people in theirears. they develop a relationship with the people they re listening to on a regular basis. and we find that when we do live events, a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them and we have to sort of remind ourtalent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this and it s just one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to
have their headphones on, they re cooking, they re commuting, they re walking the dog and they get very, very close to the people in their ears. they develop a relationship with the people they re listening to on a regular basis. and we find that when we do live events, a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them and we have to sort of remind ourtalent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this. and it sjust one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to start us off. it s from an annual report on digital news from the reuters institute for the study ofjournalism. it came out on monday and describes news podcasting as, a bright spot for publishers which attracts younger, well educated listeners . given that there aren t so many bright spots for many news organisations at the moment, that is something to hold on to, and i wanted to open up to everyone f
a lot of the audience comes up to our hosts and treats them like friends, like they already know them. and we have to sort of remind our talent, our hosts, that, you know, to expect this. and it sjust one of those quirks that, in part, i think it s the nature of the way you listen to the shows. here s a quote to start us off. it s from an annual report on digital news from the reuters institute for the study ofjournalism. it came out on monday and describes news podcasting as, a bright spot for publishers, which attracts younger, well educated listeners. given that there aren t so many bright spots for many news organisations at the moment, that is something to hold on to and i wanted to open up to everyone first. lewis, you re here. you ve covered many an election over your very young life. you make me sound so old. yeah, not that old. but you ve managed to get in on a few elections. but could you have ever seen that podcasting would be so central to this one? well, i def