and that congress will learn a lot. donald trump and mike pompeo just lost control of kurt volker, that resignation makes him a completely free agent in dealing with congress. so we re going to learn everything about what rudy giuliani did when he got on the ground and his contacts. i m not sure volker was there for all those contacts so it might be a little underwhelming and we should understand these are all sideshows. trump has already confessed. he confessed last sunday. it s not like we have a lot of, you know, evidence gathering to be done in this case, and that s why democrats rightly think that this can be done this year. he can be impeached before the end of the year. and it s possible they could even have the trial as soon as december. so it s very important that they stay on this fast track. there s a lot of worry in washington because politicians like to grandstand. they re going to be they should be striking witnesses,
week, but the president doesn t go into this with the goodwill that clinton had in 98. bill clinton was accused of obstruction of justice and lying to the fbi to cover up an affair. these allegations are so much more serious and they concern national security and a cover up and obstruction, and our election confidence. so people will point out that difference. rick, walk us through what happens next in congress. i know we ve been talking about impeachment a lot the past year, i think people assume once you say impeachment you re voting and that s it. it s over and that s not the case. that s not the case. a huge difference between the clinton impeachment and this one, in the clinton impeachment there was a special prosecutor and the house didn t conduct any new evidence gathering, they didn t have witnesses, there weren t facts to be developed. we knew everything we were going to know at the beginning of that process. here at the beginning we are just beginning to get the
and john durham. they are in charge. they are the ones that have oversight, and they are the only ones that can indict or move forward with any type of criminal prosecution if any of these laws were violated which we know they were. sean: devin nunes, you know this as well as anybody. where do you see this now coming or going? and we keep hearing that the fisa report by the inspector general will be devastating. i would assume that he concludes all four, five applications were obtained illegally. do you see in a different conclusion than that? no, i don t, sean. where we are at right now are in evidence gathering. you look what came out with james comey a few weeks ago. that was more evidence. if you look at the horowitz report from i think what sarah said is correct, the more that can be declassified, the better because we don t want to get the horowitz report out and i don t know how many pages it s going to be but i imagine it will be
they are the ones that have oversight, and they are the only ones that can indict or move forward with any type of criminal prosecution, if any of these laws were violated, which we know they were. sean: and, devin nunes, you know this as well as anybody. where do you see this now coming or going? and we keep hearing that the fisa report by the inspector general will be devastating. i would assume that he concludes that all four fisa applications and warrants were obtained illegally. do you see any different conclusion than that? no, i don t, sean. where we are at right now are in evidence gathering. you look what came out with comey a few weeks ago. that was more evidence that we didn t have before. if you look at the horowitz report, i think what sara said is correct, the more that can be declassified, the better because we don t want to get the horowitz report out and i don t know how many pages it s going to be but i imagine it will be long.
campaign, as well as former white house aides, rick deerborn, deputy chief of staff on policy and rob porter, former white house secretary. so far, only lewandowski is slated to appear before the committee. so the real challenge for democrats is going to be finding that star witness. the white house has blocked most of their efforts to get many of those who played a key role in the mueller report to appear before lawmakers on capitol hill. and so as they do that evidence gathering, we still haven t seen a real breakthrough for the committee when it comes to having some of those people come forward. all right. so wesley, let s switch gears and talk about gun legislation because that s also going to get and continue to get a lot of focus as lawmakers are back on capitol hill after the summer recess. 145 ceos this morning from uber s ceo tor lyft, to levi strauss sending a letter to the senate saying you have to do something specifically on red