chris christie on stage. somehow by hook or by crook. thanks, chris. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. we start tonight with significant breaking news. the new york times is confirming that mark meadows, donald trump s former chief of staff, has testified to a federal grand jury as part of special counsel jack smith s ongoing investigations into trump s mishanding of classified information and his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. this is a major development, and we are going to talk about it in just a minute with representative jamie raskin who served on the january 6th committee, but we start with mar-a-lago. at this point you have probably seen a picture of trump s florida resort. now, mar-a-lago is massive. it sits on about 20 acres of land. it has more than 50 bedrooms, and has all the hallmarks of luxury, all the fancy stuff, italian stone and spanish tile, and lots of marble and gold plated fixtures and expense was rugs and also has a golf cour
Indepth interviews with leading newsmakers, plus discussions with Americas preeminent political minds. Important meeting because i never even heard that. As far as you know, this is all of it. This is everything. This is everything. All right. So who do you believe . Joining me now to break this down, former state Department Senior adviser. Paul butler, Professor Of Law at georgetown law school. Former fbi agent. Clint watts author of messing with the enemy. David k johnson and former watergate prosecutor. Wow, we just have an embarrassment of riches. Im going to go Around The Horn and talk about. Im going to start with you paul. Just on how this changes the legal case. Trump tower meeting. June 3. Donald trump jr. Gets email from Rob Goldstone saying moscow supports his fathers candidacy. He responded if its what you say it is, i love it. Trump junior and goldstone finalize a date. Same day trump teases this major speech. June 8 russian intelligence
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if meadows truly has flipped i think everything falls apart for trump even more than it already has because there s nothing more in trump world than loyalty. we ve already seen with some of president trump s past chiefs of staff, so the same thing may be going on here. look, it seems so suspicious like everything in trump world. they say no one would ever build an i.t. room near a pool pit. that just doesn t happen. to be fair to donald trump maybe he built the house the way he tried to build the government and country, i don t know. it furthers the narrative of
and may be my colleague and i agree on that and that there are no distant atomic defenses to be had. martha: thank you both. with the democrats looking to subpoena everyone and everything in trump world, a debate over how much power the president has two shut them down before they start, next.
going to crack. michael cohen has been involved in everything from reported payoffs of women who say they had affairs with donald trump. he was involved in allegedly being in prague, which he says he was not. mcclatchy had a piece about how he could get into prague another way. michael cohen seems to be involved in everything in trump world. cutting him off, as a layperson, doesn t seem smart. we also forget because there are so many facts, we forget the bad facts from a month ago or two months ago. he was involved during the campaign on the moscow/trump tower escapade with felix sadr. and involved in the ukraine peace deal? yeah. it s hard to think of something donald trump was doing that michael cohen was not involved in. and i think they ve made a decision, if you can think of it as a rationale decision, which is he knows so much, we just