point and everything flynn describes ends up in the el including the special counsel. what is your sense in terms of how much we re uncovering was being run and green lit and directed by trump, mike? at the time flynn said that, my colleague, maggie haberman, reported on some of these meetings that were going on in the west wing. to not receive incredible amounts of attention because i think that the, what was being proposed was so farfetched. like who would have thought what you just laid out by mike flynn was you know, essentially being drafted in executive orders that could be given to the president of the united states. and the thing about trump and about what flynn does there is that they say it all out loud. basically just lays the entire thing out loud and what we were
kian s defense team wants all of those. they want the ones that relate to his case directly and the illegal lobbying work for the nation of turkey that he s charged with. they want everything on that subject matter. naturally that makes sense. but they also want everything else. they want the whole universe of everything flynn has said to anybody from the government including the special counsel since he became a cooperating witness. and they had a big fight about it in court on friday. we have obtained the transcript of that. i ll read you a little piece of it. quote, from the defense lawyer, quote, your honor, this is not an ordinary case by any means. the judge, right. k the office of special counsel has disclosed they interviewed mr. flynn who s the key witness ins this case 19 times. that s at least 20, probably more than that. quote, the reason that we are here before the court is that mr. kian has a great deal of work to do to put together a
court is that they get access to everything the fbi and the special counsel and all of these other prosecutors have obtained from mike flynn since mike flynn started cooperating with the government. and that s a lot of stuff they want access to. i mean, flynn has been cooperating since 2017. the fbi produces a formal record every time they do an interview with a subject or a witness or a cooperator, i guess. in flynn s case, there are apparently at least 19 different 302s from the fbi. specifically about flynn. because he has been cooperating with them for so long on so many different things. kian s defense team wants all of those. they want the ones that relate to bijan kian s case directly and the illegal lobbying case with turkey he s charged with. naturally, that makes sense, but they also want everything else. they want the whole universe of everything flynn has said to anybody from the government
by an unfetterred review of his 302s. what we are objecting to is a frolic through everything else that the special counsel s office produced in connection with entirely unrelated matters. so this is we ve only had one trial so far from mueller. this is likely the next trial that derive from the special counsel s investigation. mike flynn is going to be artpa of it. he s apparently the key witness against the defendant in this trial. his sentencing has been delayed again in part because of his role in this trial. because he has a role in this trial, the defense wants access to everything flynn has said as a prosecuting witness. the prosecutors are saying no, no, no, no way. flynn s cooperation involved matters that are still pending investigations. stuff that s still live. now, that s where it was with this penning kian trial and the fight over mike flynn s
reason his sentencing has been delayed for another couple of months at least because flynn might be done cooperating with the special counsel s office but he is still working with prosecutors in this case against bijan kian. mike flynn is due to be a witness against bijan kian later this summer in virginia. that is turning out to be an interesting sticking point in terms of how all these cases are wrapping up and all these guys ultimate fates are being decided because the bijan kian defense team under rights and federal trial procedure they get access to any information the federal government plans to use their client. in this case it seems like quite a lot of the evidence the government plans to use against their client is going to come from mike flynn. so now bijan kian s defense team is mounting this stand in federal court which i think deserves a little more attention than it s getting because what they re demanding of the the