he s made plain in the past, he feels it s perfectly fine to lie to the public. how likely is that, ellie? it s it absolutely needs to happen and i think it will happen once out of office. for various reasons that i don t agree with, but various reasons nobody in the department of justice will indict the sitting president for reasons that i don t agree with, but when he s out of office, when he sclothed the united states, he ll be under oath and go poorly for him then. kendis, on top of that, complicated to everybody aen subpoena a sitting president. there have been cases where congress subpoenaed ex presidents before, too. even that gets tricky legally and in the history of congress. i think, again, echo that view. it s not likely to happen. again, not just a question of indicting him it s even getting him to testify, just tough. the wild card is whether he