joel hunter, evangelical pastor and small circle of advisors that talk to the president over the phone. he was made available to the washington post. he says that is the downside not wanting to expose what is personal to the political arena. the pastor added it leaves all kinds of room for speculation and conspiracy and people who just not informed. you know what happens with a vacuum he says. it gets filled. he thinks the president should consider ways to convey the depth of his faith to those who want to hear it and see it from him. does president obama need to reach out more to the christian community? mark was a chief speechwriter for president george w. bush. simon rosenberg an visor to president clinton. we thank you for both being here. simon, does the president need to be seen more often going to church on sunday, for example? i would say two things. ironic in 2008 the president was criticized for the views of his christian pastor in