Hello and welcome the cross for all things are considered im Peter Lavelle the Atlantic Alliance the bedrock of the post world war 2 Global Security order is slowly but surely unraveling more and more often washington and brussels diverged on important Foreign Policy issues today europe has a choice to defend its interests or fade into oblivion. Crosstalk in the Atlantic Alliance im joined by my guest mark allman an ox. Hes the director of the Crisis Research institute in london we have Jonathan Steele hes an International Affairs commentator also in london we have a real because he is founder of a k. Consulting and a Foreign Affairs analyst or a gentleman crosslike rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate mark let me go to you 1st here and let me just read you 2 quotes here number one foreign minister lavrov in munich saying quote change course speak for its too late and we have the new head of the European Unions Foreign Policy arm he he als
Crosstalk in the Atlantic Alliance im joined by my guest mark ullman in oxford hes the director of the Crisis Research institute in london we have Jonathan Steele hes an International Affairs commentator also in london we have a real because he is founder of a consulting and Foreign Affairs analyst all right gentlemen cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate mark let me go to you 1st here and let me just read you 2 quotes here from number one foreign minister lavrov played in munich saying quote change course speak for its too late and we have the new head of the European Unions Foreign Policy arm he he also says europe must develop quote appetite for power in the trump era theyre both hinting at the same thing in Different Directions here what does that tell you Better Change course before its too late whats that mean to you. I think. The tensions between russia and the west in general are really probably tensions in russia in the
Networks isnt going to be intimidated to a blow to the United States to give up on that. Weve already seen when we look at the iran policy that the trumpet ministration with substantially and ill use the word blackmailing european cars automotive producers to put a tax tariff on their cars if they dont toe the line i mean jonathan says you know theyre there theyre bucking the trend but i mean it gets kind of leads into where i want to go in the rest of the program is that you know the u. S. Still has not so many levers and coercive levers against europe that they dont toe the line go ahead in london. Thank you thank you for mentioning this thank you for the previous time as you mentioned china because as we know it was not about russia it was about the china we know the. Realistic Foreign Policy thinkers in the United States including john meshaal em out. It was present in 2015 my very own university in poland you know you dont university told us about this very moment that we have arr
Develop quote appetite for power in the trump era theyre both hinting at the same thing in Different Directions here what does that tell you Better Change course before its too late whats that mean to you. I think certainly the tensions between russia and the west in general are really probably tension in russia in the United States and we can see that actually inside the European Union and the european members of nato there are quite sharp divisions between the east european states who live with historical enmity and resentments against both russia into russia and the soviet union and then the west european states including germany france and so on for whom a russian threat doesnt really exist anymore but who are paying a price through sanctions and economic losses for the grand a strategy of the United States to keep russia in its box and so there is a tension about where youre going to go. Because if this situation a new cold war between russia and america continues if youre really
Crosstalk in the Atlantic Alliance im joined by my guest mark allman in oxford hes the director of the Crisis Research institute in london we have Jonathan Steele hes an International Affairs commentator also in london we have a real because he is founder of a consulting and Foreign Affairs analyst all right gentlemen cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate mark let me go to you 1st here and let me just read you 2 quotes here from number one foreign minister lavrov played in munich saying quote change course speak for its too late and we have the new head of the European Unions Foreign Policy arm he he also says europe must develop quote appetite for power in the trump era theyre both hinting at the same thing in Different Directions here what does that tell you Better Change course before its too late whats that mean to you. I think certainly the tensions were true in russia. And the west in general are really probably tensions in