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consecutive terms for a governor. so with his term set to expire in less than 10 years he needs something to do is glenn youngkin the dark horse of 2024? our next guest thinks he could be. democratic strategist and pollster doug schoen joins us now. doug, good morning to you. thanks so much, steve, for having me. steve: okay, so ron desantis and donald trump are getting all the headlines, what is it about this guy you are thinking he could be the guy that emerges between the fight and those two. well, about 65, 70% of republicans want an alternative to donald trump and desantis. they want credible alternatives. as you point out correctly steve, glenn youngkin has proven in a purple state he can win state popular, emphasize family rights in school, the whole need for parental responsibility, and

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