she is always a couple of beats behind the music. this is where some people in hee party are going. it looks like she is trying to get on that train. pretty soon, when things get back to normal, she will be back in the middle of being an establishment politician. i don t think she will stay with this line. tucker: this is what you are seeing from a bunch of elder statesmen in the democratic party. they are not sure what is going on. the kids are hopped up and mad and blocking intersections. they are saying i am hip and radical. i am with you. the slogan was i am with her. now she is saying i am with you. tucker: something like this happened 50 years ago? yes. i remember when we had trouble in the streets in vietnam. it was a bad issue for democrats. tucker: normal people didn t care. normal people didn t like it.
radical ideas that people like tom hayden and others had started to moderate. as you know, tom hayden became what he would have described as an establishment politician, a member of the california legislature and a real practical politician, realizing the only way you will achieve anything within politics and government is by that practical approach which tom hayden eventually had. lawrence, a terrific book. give me 30 seconds if you will on raoger ailes who opens it. he really started the modern television error. you can argue he is the most influential character in the book. he s a small player in the story. because he is lured into politics by richard nixon. ailes was in show business. nixon heard him talk about tv one day and decided he knows
to come up and sort of stand out. now it s head to head with marine le pen and the question, one question is is there enough white collar professional pro global pro europe support to counter act the real sort of frankly their hostility toward europe, hostility toward immigrants or just skepticism that, you know, that traditional politics, you know, can really help france, can lead it in the right way. so stephen, even with macron having a little bit of that establishment experience, does he in essence end up redefining what establishment politics is? that s what he s trying to do in many ways. the next big question in western politics and the united states and europe is if some kind of establishment politician can come up and answer the questions that donald trump and marine le pen have been posing, it s clear
benghazi, blah, blah, blah the e-mail, rather. and then he came back. he has come back since. there s not an even art to this. he went down and now he s coming back. the question is, is it because bill clinton s become more evident in the news? is it because there s too much talk in the magazines about hillary land and women around her, not enough talk about men as well? i don t know. i think the debate is a good format for her, just in general, because of her vast experience, because she s quick on her feet, because she s got facts and figures that she just kind of, you know, just like a ticker tape, that, you know, she s got it all. has done her homework. so she always shows well in the debates. in between the debates, i think it s bernie and his people out there working. and, look, it is a good year to not be a traditional politician. she cannot claim to be anything but an establishment politician. now, she has the distinction of being potentially the first woman president,
it s clear that marco rubio is an establishment politician. i get exactly why the voters are so frustrated and so upset and so disaffected. they don t feel the republican establishment is listing to them and understands them. the idea that marco rubio is an anti-establish candidate, i think that s news to just about everybody. there s too many policy wonks the no offense to policy wonks. if they are thinking this will go back to the way it was, these are different times. it s not going to be that way. in 76, he was out the outlier. thaupg. time now for my take. no matter who we elect for president in 2016, one thing i hope that changes is our