and ted cruz looking alive. remember when scott walker dropped out, the idea was, i hope you find someone to rally around to counter at the time donald trump and now that might be ben carson, but what do you make of that and whether the rallying figure might be a marco rubio right now? the history of the republican party is always almost always an insurgent candidate who gets 20, 25, 30% of the vote, and then you have a mainstream establishment conservative candidate. the two go man mano ao and the history is the mainstream candidate wins you. have to say rubio has the best chance. what is so interesting to me about this is rubeover was really a tea party candidate. he took on the republican establishment front-runner, charlie crist, the former governor of florida in the republican primary against everybody s wishes in washington and rubio prevailed.
trump were to run as a third party candidate in 2016. according to the most recent poll hillary clinton would beat jeb bush considered the gop establishment front-runner by six points if they re matched together in a two-way race. if you add trump to the mix, you may get a three-way race. look at that. clinton s lead explodes to 16 points, a six-point lead in a twosh-way race a 16-point lead in a three-way race. that s clear evidence that donald trump would have a very negative effect on the republicans as an independent candidate. let s talk more about that possibility that trump is dangling out there with e.j. dionne, msnbc contributor and columnist with the washington post. he s joining msnbc contributor victor yoo defran cresco soto evan mcmorris santoro from buzzfeed. the myth of ross perot, it s casually thrown out there, he