leading into this, things got really hot and really contentious between these two sides. and it would be probably, i think, honestly, a little confusing to people on the outside, really what the difference is, at the end of the day, between rana mcdaniel and hamit dylan and the my pillow ceo, but what did you see on the ground? it was an interesting battle lines forming between the three running mates. you had rana mcdaniel running for re-election. but you couldn t argue that she was the establishment figure. this is someone whose career had been made by donald trump. a lot of the people arguing against her included some pretty anti-trump figures. the support that came to back dylan was a mixture of people who both thought that mcdaniel was to blame for election losses, and some thought that she was not a credible figure going head to the 2024 primary. it was a kind of convolution of interest that led to the challenge against mcdaniel, but because this is a group that is
establishment figure who represents the swamp are completely disregarding that the former president, who they have looked towards in leadership has endorsed him and said this should move forward. that he should be the speaker. he didn t move the needle at all. that says a lot about where his political power is inside washington and maybe a lot about where his presidential campaign is we have yet to see where that goes. it did not make a difference today. to jason s point, nobody is screaming kevin, kevin but they are starting to scream get this done. move on. get to the legislating, the seating of the congress. this hasn t happened yet. they can t do anything unless they get a speaker. yeah, in terms of the concessions that kevin mccarthy made to these individuals, you know, will they be set in stone
great royalist. you re, as you ve said, you re a working class kid who reached the top of the art world and you became, i think, quite familiar with the royals. you met, ithink, prince charles several times. yeah. i guess what i m getting to is whether you ve become a bit of an insider. you began by perhaps being seen as something of a rebel, launching a movement in the late 50s and 60s in the art world in britain, and you ve ended up being a bit of an establishment figure. yes. 0k. i think to be part of an establishment is probably good. it s used. it s used as an insult, to be establishment. i don t think it is an insult. you know, if there is an establishment and you work within it, it s good to be a member of it. let me ask you about the critics, cos every artist, i guess, has to deal
you began by perhaps being seen as something of a rebel, launching a movement in the late 50s and 60s in the art world in britain, and you ve ended up being a bit of an establishment figure. yes. 0k. i think to be part of an establishment is probably good. it s used as an insult, to be establishment. i don t think it is an insult. you know, if there is an establishment and you work within it, it s good to be a member of it. let me ask you about the critics, cos every artist, i guess, has to deal with reviews, with criticism. you have found, i think, found it difficult over the years to handle some of the criticism. and i wonder whether you feel there s a snobbery in the art world and that pop art was never, or at least in its origins, was never
i know you are a very great royalist. as you ve said, you re a working class kid who reached the top of the art world and you became, i think, quite familiar with the royals. you met, ithink, prince charles several times. i guess what i m getting to is whether you ve become a bit of an insider? you began by perhaps being seen as something of a rebel, launching a movement in the late 50s and 60s in the art world in britain, and you ve ended up being a bit of an establishment figure. yeah, that s ok. i think to be part of an establishment is probably good. it s used as an insult to be establishment. i don t think it is an insult. you know, if there is an establishment and you work within it, it s good to be a member of it.