was pushing that button, i want change. and people who liked trump, liked bernie as a second choice. more hot water, whatever they re saying, like the kid says, i want an item. in bernieville, a republican has just been elected governor. i just think there s an urge for something we don t have. and if trump wins, i think it will be the toughest job in history for him to deliver what he promised. if hillary wins she has to deal as an establishment figure, the first woman president with a need to try to bind this country together and keep it workable for four years. and that means dealing with whatever is left on the republican side. across our newsroom, hugh hewitt, we ve had many discussions with you over this campaign season. we have them all on video. so what do you make of what
different reasons, but you know, the dysfunctional nature of washington, the inability of congress and the president to work together on anything, you know, is has been you know, it s certainly been a major factor for in donald trump s rise, but the perception that we need to throw the you know, the all the rascal out, that s why he got as far as he did and were it not for his manifest flaws on so many other fronts he d probably be doing a lot better against hillary clinton who, for better or worse, is seen as somebody whose been around for many years and is an establishment figure who s part of the system in washington. douglas, if the country agrees with that, then why don t they elect people who can work together? well, look, first off, on that whole broken argument, barack obama has a 55% a prappr
you know, were it not for his manifest flaws on so many other fronts he probably would be doing a lot better against hillary clinton, who for better or worse is seen as somebody who has been around for many years and is an establishment figure who is part of the system in washington. douglas, if the country agrees with that, then why don t they elect people who can work together? well, look, first off, on that whole broken argument, barack obama has a 55% approval rating. that s not broken. that s the numbers of ronald reagan and that s the numbers of bill clinton at his zenith, meaning people are believing in obama, the obama administration is doing well. hillary clinton here might win an absolute historic election as the first woman. i think what is broken is congress. congress has about, you know, a 15% or lower approval rating, and that is a problem. i don t think the supreme court is broken if we get a ninth in. our armed forces certainly
you know it s hard to label me as an establishment figure. because i ve always fought the establishment. that s true. this may be where we are now. here s what some people say. trump says all the things i wish i could say and i can t. well let me tell you, we re a country that is devolving into name-calling and insulting? we got bigger problems than who we re going to elect for president. so what do i think? hope springs eternal with mei v time. i ve studied it for a long time and i think at the end of the day people do settle down. say something angry. i m not going to change myself. if i win i m going to fix the country. i m not going to say things to get elected and i m there and now what do we do. forget it, i m not going there. spoken like the grown-up at the table. that s brilliant. i think that s brilliant. this going to be a deep tease, you re going to hear from dana perino, she s got questions. but the governor, don t go away, he s staying with him. we re g
mentioned the first three big states. south carolina is fascinating primary state for republicans to meet because yes, you have a lot of evangelicals and a lot of military voters. but if you look at the election cycles, it hasn t gone to way of iowa, meaning the super conservative candidate has not necessarily won. it s been the establishment figure. and marco rubio is very much trying to play in that lane at this point, especially now since jeb bush is doing so poorly. he s been in south carolina more than any other candidate and that s not an accident. one thing that s happened in the primary is the impact of external events have had on the direction of the conversation, the attacks in paris and the attacks in san bernardino has shifted the conversation so strongly to national security. what outside events, those that we know of, what outside events are you looking to see you think will have the biggest impact on the conversation going