he kept the documents. he thinks he could keep the documents. the archives itself turned over 16 records that showed that he understood as well as his top advisers, how to declassify documents, and to john s point, if it s an espionage charge, doesn t matter if he did or didn t it s completely irrelevant. the question is d he retain them? did he transmit them? did he refuse to give them back? if they did any of those things and they impact the national defense, doesn t even matter whether it was classified or not, so it just bypasses that whole question. and that s why you have donald trump s own allies, his former attorneys from ty cobb to the protect him at any costs bill barr saying, he s in trouble. because it doesn t take much to just look at the public record here and say, he s in trouble.
is probably less strong than the wrongfully removing government documents, which was one of the charges that served as the basis for the search warrant and mar-a-lago and obstruction of justice is a lay down winner because after they were subpoenaed by the grand jury as part of a criminal investigation, donald trump unlawfully continued to conceal them. so, you know, only a jury can answer that question. but you know what, if you have two block buster charges including obstruction which is a 20-year max, i would be okay with the special counsel deciding to forego bringing an espionage charge because you can only confine a man but for one life. david, there is the statements from the trump lawyers have all been very there s no evidence he did anything deliberate. seen no indication that he knowingly possessed any of the documents. this feels like this deeply undercuts that. they re now screaming about the leaks but not saying he didn t do it. how nervous do you think trump
into the espionage or mishandling. this you re saying is you think game over on an espionage charge or what is the charge? absolutely. so there is espionage charges. this is basically it is a crime to violation of the espionage act. yes. so it is a crime to possess national defense information without authority. it is a crime to disseminate that, that is to share it. and here there apparently is shared with people who don t have clearance to get this information. and again this, is not like a football. this is war plans given to people who have no clearance to get it. it is hard to imagine this is their worst nightmare as to what they were thinking would happen
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home. so i remain positive and confident on a daily basis that, you know, the wheels are turning. i just wish they would turn a little bit more quickly. whelan has been wrongfully detained already since 2018 on an espionage charge. his sister, elizabeth, is outfront now. elizabeth, i really appreciate your time, and i know, you know, we ve spoken regularly about your brother. of course while you have had the opportunity to hear his voice at times, we and the american people, of course, really have not. but, you know, you hear this. we hear him talk about he s optimistic he may be coming home. what do you hear in his message? well, i think oh, gosh. when i listen to that, i hear his courage and resilience on display. and i think i ve got a certain amount of concern that people are listening to this and thinking, oh, he s upbeat. he s confident. you know, this is a strength he has to bring every single day. this is his courage on display, and i don t want anyone to think that he is