you could just feel feel negativity. you just she knew at that point, i think, that like the air coming out, yeah. yeah. spring. people go outside. they see things. was this here before? was this here when you came that day, this berm, this earthen thing you re climbing up? yeah. it wasn t as big to my knowledge but it was definitely there. erik kassab and a friend were trying to make some quick cash finding and selling abandoned bits of metal. this was 10 miles from big mike s. that day, i was comin here to find any scrap metal that i could take out. i was in a rock in a hard place and i needed money pretty quickly and what do we call that, scrapping, or something? yeah. it was scrapping. erik wasn t having much luck. and then inside this half-collapsed ruin, he turned over a piece of disintegrating plywood and i saw what i thought was like it looked kinda like a plant, like a fake plant, so i went and picked it up. i didn t realize what it was,