look, you talk to people. what do we do? well, you know, you don t sit around and wait for him to be impeached. because i don t think that s going to happen. i think that s certainly a long shot. it would have to be not a smoking gun, but a smoking bazooka i think for that to happen. people asked me about the 25th amendment, which would let the vice president and the cabinet relieve the president of his duties. i think that s a fail-safe mechanism in case he literally starts howling at the moon, right? but what you can do look we have a congress. we have separation of powers. we have a congress that can investigate, that can exercise oversight, that has the power of the purse, that can advise and consent. and those are the things that congress needs to do. you re talking, gene, and you re a serious guy, you re talking about the president being put in a straitjacket, basically. yeah, i am. i am.
indianapolis yesterday. the game plan was to walk out. let me ask you what you mean politically. you know, i wrote that piece for your paper. thanks for rung it, about how bobby kennedy looking at probably the most divisive moment in american modern history, the assassination of martin luther king, and he even in that night to begin the healing process. and that is what is this? it s not healing. it s just ripping the scab? is that what the vice president was doing? this is appealing to donald trump s base. i ve heard from readers all over the country today, as you might imagine, who are very supportive of what the vice president did. they said over and over again what i heard is the vice president did what i wished i could do at an nfl game. i stood up he stood up and walked out for me. so whatever we may think of it, it was political stunt. but it was a stunt that appealed to the president s base. he flew from vegas all the way to indianapolis with the purported intention o
your home team and the nfl and everything. but obviously he told the traveling press corps before he left the van, stay in the van because i ll be back in few minutes. that s the message he sent to the press corps. trump put out the world that he told him to do this. so all this was premeditated we re looking at one of these airport flight maps from vegas, northeast, goes all the way back to indianapolis almost on the east coast. and all the way back across the country, all that gas so he could walk out in eight minutes. a vice presidential visit to any city, including indianapolis takes a lot of logistics. there is a lot of security at the airport. a lot of security at the stadium. a large public event like that where the vice president is due to be there is extra security, as there should be. we want our leaders protected in a dangerous world. but then to just plan on walking out and walking out in a matter of minutes sort of undercuts and undermines the hard work that so many peop
of the area on his way to an event in california. i asked vice president pence to leave the stadium if any players kneeled disrespecting our country. i m proud of him and second lady karen. as you just heard, drew some criticism. and in pence s home newspaper, pence s walkout was choreographed and rehearsed. it also was a distraction for what should be this administration s true priorities. for more i m joined by the author of the column for the indianapolis star, tim switz. it was rehearsed, as you just said, chris. the press corps was told to stay in the vance, don t go in the stadium. the vice president will be right back. that s exactly what happened. the san francisco 49 verse been staging this type of a protest for a long time now, sunday after sunday. so it was no surprise that some players took a knee during the anthem. and the vice president came to
welcome back to hardball. vice president mike pence went to indiana yesterday where he came from purportedly to watch the colts play football, but didn t stay for the game. guess what? the vice president tweeted his attendance of the game just before noon on sunday. that s in indianapolis. kickoff between his hometown colts and the great san francisco 49ers was set for 1:00. by 1:08, that s 1:08, eight minutes later, the vice president was already on his way out of the stadium, leaving the stadium after some players knelt, there they are during the national anthem. he explained his decision on social media, writing i left today s colts game because president donald j. trump and i will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our flag or our national anthem. i stand with president trump. i stand with our soldiers, and i will always stand for our flag and our national anthem. this was no surprise to the traveling press corps. they were told to stay in their vans because the