any fair treatment and why would mr. erdogan continue to pick this scab? it does not improve relations with the western world. it doesn t improve relations with nato. and where is mr. erdogan going to go for economics? his neighbor russia? that s always worked out historically, how about the persian influence with iran? oh, they have always gotten along, how about the middle east with the arab nations? they still are stung by memories of the otto man empire. mr. erdogan doesn t have a lot of friends and he is not making new ones that are going to be in his favor he is in a tough spot. harris: are we going to get our pastor home? i hope. so we have worked tirelessly on this issue in both the house and senate. our hearts go out to his family. is he being unjustly held. there is nothing that they have on it. he is now being used in a new chapter of political leverage to try to address the problems that are going on within turkey it s very
is now going to determine if, in fact, brun son is going to remain under house arrest and under a travel ban. harris, if he is convicted, on the charges he faces, he could spend the next 35 years in a turkish prison. haste? harris: david lee miller thank you very much. congressman russell a republican from the great state of oklahoma sits on the armed services committee. great to see you today, congressman. boy, this is a dire situation for the american pastor. but i have to say, or just ask is turkey underestimating this president? well, not only are they under estimating this president, they are under estimating nato. they are under estimating europe. they are under estimating world resolve. the problems in turkey have been brewing for a couple of years now. and the issue with pastor brun son, we have met with government officials in incorporate corankara a cup. mr. erdogan is taking the
turkish people to the stone age in aspirations. very, very sad when we see the human rights egregious treatment of turkish citizens after the coup attempt and souring of his friends and allies. the whoas that mr. erdogan has of his own making. harris: congressman russell are tariffs the new ground for maximum pressure? well, i think in this case the turkish lira was in trouble long before we even looked at some of these policies dealing with trade on a broader scale. turkey has soured business relations. they mr. erdogan arrested 150,000 of his own citizens on trumped up terrorism charges. you had 100,000 political dissidents that were forced out. you had charities, groups, schools. a lot of folks that their assets were seized. that doesn t create a gug good business climate.
then he failed to follow the basic principle. tire rants can have power, markets have more power. and he is learning that lesson right now in a hard way. harris: we re even watching some of the reverb ration here at home as we check the big board for our markets here. this matters. and our economy is strong. their s is not. i thought it was interesting though to hear the leadership say you know, we ll be in a better position, we ll begin with better u.s.-turkey relations if you stop these tariffs. better than what? well, that s the real question. and then what s the outlook? you ve got mr. erdogan that is distancing all of kind of the culture and history of what we have seen since mustafa and the movement 100 years ago when turkey decidedly cast its lot as a european modern western country. now erdogan, we don t know
turkish/syrian border less than a week after turkish airstrike ares killed kurdish militants closely aligned with us. tensions have been rising as turkey and the u.s. moved armored vehicles into the region. turkey s leader, president erdogan, is demanding that the u.s. stop backing those kurdish militias who are helping us fight isis in syria. so what does this potential confrontation mean? retired four-star general jack keane joins us, he s also the chairman for the institute for the study of war. man, e, man, general man, oh man, general, it s a three-way potential confrontation, erdogan, the kurds and us. can you sort this out for us? yeah, we ll give it a try. listen, eric, nothing in syria is easy. this is hard and complicated, as you noted, and here s what s happened. this was very predictable because erdogan told us early on