just ground. equipment itself. so that is just ground- equipment itself. so that is just ground. equipment itself. so that is ust round. ., . just ground. even as a child, i mean, just ground. even as a child, i mean. i just ground. even as a child, i mean. i had just ground. even as a child, i mean, i had access just ground. even as a child, i mean, i had access to - just ground. even as a child, i mean, i had access to the - just ground. even as a child, i i mean, i had access to the game and you mean, i had access to the game and you just needed a bat and ball and and you just needed a bat and ball and then you will find there ball and then you will find there are so many people playing there are so many people playing cricket even in the streets. playing cricket even in the streets, in the parks. so the access streets, in the parks. so the access to streets, in the parks. so the access to the game is easy and there access to the game is easy and there are a
tried to point this out in a tweet over the weekend, you do not just have to consider the piece of equipment itself, but also the support infrastructure, the fueling required, the mechanics, the supporters, the trainers, as well as the operators. so when you re talking about lots of airplanes, it requires the technology and the technical support to those airplanes that are being delivered. some of the more modern aircraft that ukraine is requesting, it s not that the ukrainians couldn t fight in them, it s just do they have the individuals that have been trained to care for them, to refuel them, to put bombs on board. it takes different types of weapons systems. all those things have to be part of the consideration with the transfer of weapons systems. with the t-72, the ukrainian army already has them. they know the tank. that s a big part of it. i ve been told as far as aircraft are concerned, the existing aircraft the ukrainians
train wreck: the forensics of trail disasters and between the two of you, we have a wealth of information here. i appreciate both of you being on with me. richard biel, just to you first. put yourself in the shoes of these ntsb guys and gals who will be arriving at some point today and they re heading straight for this derailment scene. what s question number one for them. question number one is going to be to find out where exactly that train left the track. they re going to go back to the point where the first track for the first we ll went to see where it went anything wrong and there was a broken rail to, and was there something wrong with the equipment itself, and finally seeing the aerials that
they ll have to have access to where it was actually done. that means locating where that missile was fired from. they can do that. they probably have a good idea by triangulating all the radar signatures they have. i m told they have good coverage of that. they ll have to go in there and talk to the local people and see what they know. find out if there s any communications there. it s going after a need until a haystack. what about finding the weaponry itself? we ve seen that video of yes, if they had the piece of equipment itself, they could match the radar on the piece of equipment to the radar signatures we have. however that just tell, you that s the piece of equipment. it doesn t tell you who actually was operating it at that time. you re faced with the situation of it s not just one rebel group, it s different kind of militia gaps, not necessarily with any real central lead, although there is a so-called prime minister of the donetsk regio region, but you have different
the response? it is not our place to say. it is up to the australians. really, don, it looks like it s all about formality because michael dean has been a contact of ours and has been very much in the know during this entire under water search mission. don? now not really answering. thank you very much. we appreciate that, rene marsh. want to bring in aviation analyst and mary schiavo and david soucie, safety analyst and author of why planes crash. good morning. good morning. mary, i ll start with you. if it wasn t the plane s black boxes, what were those pings? they re theorizing it could have been from the equipment itself, from the listening devices themselves or from the ships and going so far as to guess that if there was even some kind of short in the equipment, that could have put