this is a bold attempt by islamists to shut down critical scrutiny of them. islam is robust. it s a faith that consisted for 14 centuries. it can withstand criticism, it can withstand all kinds of slander. it can withstand cartoons being drawn about it. but islamism is fragile. you scrutinize it and it crumbles. so islamism is a useful word and yes i combat it. it does inspire decapitations that were so rare i needed to see them with a terror expert five years ago. now they re everyday common mace on twitter if you want to look at what islamic state is doing. at what point does being a muslim being a follower of islam, convert, you know transfer over into islamsism? a great question. ayaan explained it very clearly. the inability to think critically. and a basic tool is to be able to decide what is moral and what
what they do knowing it could cost them everything. trace gallagher starts us off tonight with a story of a woman by the name of iyan. reporter: from her biggest advocates she receives the strongest praise. she receives death threats. day-to-day she has no idea which side she ll come in contact with and yet she continues to fight for women and against islam. because she says it s where her journey has brought her. i remember distinctly as a teenager when we just used to be regular muslims and when things started to change and members of our own community started to preach what they were preaching was hostile to women. she was born in mogadishu, somalia, the daughter of a somali politician an outspoken man whose political opinion at times cost him his freedom.
to be islamic law kills apostates, based in blasphemy laws. second third, fourth class citizenship to women. they don t get right to equality. half the vote of man quarter of the inheritance. all the things need to be looked at by scholars that are american believe in liberty first, can reform these things. the first step is to defeat the islamic state concept then in the next generation will come new schools of thought of sharia that build first on the foundation of liberty and our first amendment and that movement can happen if americans get behind the need to take sides within the house of islam and not become anti-islam. zuhdi, always interesting hearing you. we ll be back to you in a moment as well with ayaan. we re hearing form and current muslims warning about the threat from radical islam, there are some in the faith who think our guests are the real threat. one of those folks will join us
for a must-see debate just ahead. and up next [ sirens ] a muslim doctor who says her experience treating the survivors of 9/11 changed her political world view forever. right after this break, conta ahmed on why america may be falling behind in the fight against the radicals. almost every time we do a segment on this subject excellent observation. we get complaints from c.a.r.e. that we re islamophobic and on it goes. excellent observation because islamophobia is a means to silence it. it s an absolutely i say malignant strategy and very few people are brave enough to confront this. (music) boys? (music)
yaw may not enjoy it but it s constitutional. instead, try to appease a faction of islam that would have the speech shut down. adam govnick of the new yorker made a distinction, he was defending an award of courage to the survivors and there were a number of prominent authors from north america who went through. and in that defense, he lectured them on not understanding the distix between acts of imagination and acts of violence. and the first amendment is about protecting acts of imagination. and what happened in garland, the cartoon contest was an act of imagination. and this response of the two men who drove 1,000 miles was an act