say it. i am so humble. i am the humblest ever. who was that in my ear? the joker has come here, jack nicholson. go ahead. it s highly timely actually. p.j., this bragging about humility is, i guess, an o oxymor oxymoron. your thoughts now, sir. less gastric than they just were. i m irish catholic. you know, what the pope says goes. trump is episcopalian. maybe they ve got a different rule book over there. i ll have to check. i thought he s presbyterian. i think he got married in a presbyterian church. of course he s not going to hear it. he doesn t hear anything that isn t directed directly to him, possibly from a presidential seal podium. so i think he s going to miss the focus. here s the president s brand of campaigning. it s full of boasts and bragging. i don t know where this is taking us. i guess it s taken us to here.
the conservative traditional wing, of which anthony kennedy, who gorsuch clerked under, is in, says, no, we are going to go back to the intent of the founding fathers and the people who forged the constitution that we all live under. that is their intent, that is what is most important, not the new evolution of society. so, judge gorsuch is in that category. he has two daughters when he is an episcopalian. he mentioned his faith. episcopalian, very close to catholicism. it is just the pope that separates the two religions. okay, so, donald trump, finally, then, i will get to our analysts, who are smarter than i am on this matter, did a very, very shrewd thing tonight. he put the democratic party in a tough spot. he said, this is a man that is
back to the idea there is no religious test for public office but seems to be unofficial tests out there. evangelicals take their religion seriously. they do focus on doctorate, not just issues. i think trump doing this saying i m a mainstream christian, not someone off on the side. i m not like a mormon or seventh day adventist or whatever these people are doing is a clever tactic. it s a wrong tactic but it s been used in the past. trump s desperate. perry, i studied a little of this. the interesting thing about america is we call the religions of episcopalian and presbyterian as mainstream. they are small in their number. the large number of american christians are baptist, evangelical. they are the vast majority of the christian community in this country. yet somebody like trump would
all i said was i don t know about it. des moines register poll said 32% think donald trump is a committed christian. back to the idea there is no religious test for public office but seems to be unofficial tests out there. evangelicals take their religion seriously. they do focus on doctorate, not just issues. i think trump doing this saying i m a mainstream christian, not someone off on the side. i m not like a mormon or seventh day adventist or whatever these people are doing is a clever tactic. it s a wrong tactic but it s been used in the past. trump s desperate. perry, i studied a little of this. the interesting thing about america is we call the religions of episcopalian and presbyterian as mainstream. they are small in their number.
are you saying that s a good thing? i m saying that s the way it is. do you think the voter needs to know if i go to church? i don t need to know but then i m not going to vote for you anyway. former republican senator john danforth has written a book whose title would terrify the secretly atheist county in the west wing. the book is the relevance of religion, how faithful people can change bol politics. back with us to discuss the book is senator danforth. reverend danforth. you re episcopalian. that s right. i created that republican candidate in the west wing. i came up with what if he is secretly an atheist. would you vote for an atheist for president? yeah, we just had this debate very recently as there should there be a religious test for holding a public office.