he certainly knows how to oppose it and he also seems to be pretty steeped in environmental law and constitutional law. his outlook is basically from the perspective of states saying that the epa has been oppressive. it has been trying to tell us what to do and we know how to regulate our own environment in the state of oklahoma, which is his state. we support clean air, clean water. we don t like epa telling us how to do it. when he gets to the point of questioning about whether climate change is real and saying there s debate over it, that s where you get into a real fight i think with democrats and with the scientific community. chris moony is an environment and energy reporter at the washington post. nice to have you with us. thanks so much. good to talk to you. coming up, manhunt over. just this afternoon the man wanted in this deadly standoff in georgia is now dead after exchanging gunfire with officers from the home that he was hiding in. we re going to go out there li