laura: oakland, california, democrat mayor libby schaaf tweeted a warning over the weekend that she has learned about an upcoming enforcement operation. schaaf said it was her duty to warn families, even though i.c.e. sweeps have targeted illegal immigrants with criminal records. my priority is to keep the community safe. it is not my wish to panic people but to ensure that they are prepared with information. i feel confident that my sharing this information, because i did not receive it through official channels, is legal and frankly my ethical apple obligation. laura: ethics she is talking about. the mayor has said she would go to jail to protect oakland s sanctuary status, raising the question, did she break the law with her warning? let s ask our guest. claude arnold is a former
laura: oakland, california, democrat mayor libby schaaf tweeted a warning over the weekend that she has learned about an upcoming enforcement operation. schaaf said it was her duty to warn families, even though i.c.e. sweeps have targeted illegal immigrants with criminal records. my priority is to keep the community safe. it is not my wish to panic people but to ensure that they are prepared with information. i feel confident that my sharing this information, because i did not receive it through official channels, is legal and frankly my ethical apple obligation. laura: ethics she is talking about. the mayor has said she would go to jail to protect oakland s sanctuary status, raising the question, did she break the law with her warning? let s ask our guest. claude arnold is a former
popularity contest. i wouldn t be in this job. we are enforcing the laws. we don t conduct raids. we conduct a targeted enforcement operation. we don t knock on doors looking for people different than us. every person we arrest we know exactly who we are going to arrest. we know exactly where we are going to arrest them based on a lot of intelligence and investigative work. steve: do you know what they started yesterday? they started work on two miles of new border wall in collectioclexico, california. what they are trying to do obviously is remind people we need a big, big wall. although nancy pelosi, brian, can you figure out what she was talking about when she sat down with the arizona republic newspaper yesterday. brian: i m going to need some help. let the people listen and maybe you can tell us what she means. let s sit down and talk this through and see what makes sense. not some commitment to a promise that we are going to build a wall and mexico is going to pay for it. that
marshal killed in georgia trying to arrest someone who was wanted for trying to kill two other police officers. this is extreme violence on a regular basis directed against law enforcement. once one shooting happens, does that inspire other sick people to do the same thing? it could. it s possible, because these were incidents, especially the four yesterday, that occurred that the officer wasn t in the middle of an enforcement operation against that person, trying to arrest a person or control them in some way. so that they were ambushed essentially or targeted for assassination. that could trigger other people to drive down the street, you see a marked police officer police car with a police officer in it, to open fire on it or an officer walking down the sidewalk, to open fire on that officer. it is possible that one ambush type killing led to additional copycat killing. i know some police
reason that we ve been able to stop so many of these things. so i think that when you at that time intelligence information and combine it with the security that we have in the streets, the field, the airport, and then you look at the enforcement operation, it s a three-legged stool. military and enforcement working, intelligence working and the security working. and these three things together, there is no magic bullet, but you go at it full force and do the best you can city by city, state by state, country by country. and unfortunately, there is no easy way out. this is the future. this is law enforcement, this is security, this is the way it will be. but the more time that elapses between attacks on american soil, the more the human tendency of com play sepl begins to set in, that s another challenge, is it not? that is a constant challenge. you get it cities like new york