in law podcast joyce, it s a thrill to see yo in person. thank you for joining me tonight. it s always so nice to be here with you. first, let s start, it seem as though both sides would lik boris epshteyn, to calm an chat on the one, hand the prosecutors have a lot to talk to him about but what is epshteyn stand t gain here? what he stands to gain, i what he won t get, a subpoena. and i think the hope perhaps i that he can go on and spea voluntarily, and that s the en of it you think it s about avoiding the inevitabl subpoena and not for example casing the joint as they say. getting a read into what exactly federal prosecutor aren t student it s fair to say. look, he s represented by very sophisticated council. one of the lawyers that he represents trump, i m sure tha they like to get as much information as they can get. about where the focus of the special counsel currently has. do you think, he
than winning over th evangelicals and getting through th primary. it s showing people that you know how to be a politician, that you know to sell your message in yourself. and he doesn t seem to hav that genetic code if you will. one of the challenges tha he faces, trump is in this race, and ron desantis isn t eve technically a candidate yet. he made the decision to us this session in tallahassee to build a policy portfolio to tr to run on. and instead, he s watching i donald trump s trying to pic off one by one all the members of the delegation, by having i up - come from meetings, in conversations and bring in the man he can t call them and say i need your endorsement. because he s not telling peopl he s gonna write for president officially out he s at a structural disadvantage and having thes conversations. these folks need to get ahea of him and stamina back your campaign even though - it s a tough sell. why hasn t he announced she s running. what s the point do you have any in
thing. it s a weird for someone to sa about themselves does he say that rawness does he actually put himself i the first person ron desantis is a interesting character. i was around him a little bi in the house what we ve seen from an earl reporting, what i ve see personally is that he does not connect very well with people. with their scoffing at that, why does that matter, who care about. that but if you want to be a successful presidentia candidate, you need to mak people feel, things and what we re seeing is the people tha seem to know him best, the people who are quite sure that there is a whole lot there you ve seen recently a bunch o house republicans from florida including the one wh represents the seat, - they re now endorsing donald trump. that tells you that they v seen, they ve been around him, they don t think he hasn t, an a lot of it s because he s jus not as gauging and personable. they don t give you that feeling, that energy tha there s something special. he s
of this stuff. back could be something that desantis could switch gears. but it sounds like he has zero aptitude for actually the key part of politics which is even more important than winning over th evangelicals and getting through th primary. it s showing people that you know how to be a politician, that you know to sell your message in yourself. and he doesn t seem to hav that genetic code if you will. one of the challenges tha he faces, trump is in this race, and ron desantis isn t eve
we saw how much mone democratic donors donated to amy mcgrath, $96 million to try and defeat mitc mcconnell, when we wer ignoring everything else that s changing, we need t keep going and recognize tha it s the entire infrastructure the local courts, the stat legislature, it s your state supreme court, all the way o up if dobson anything, it showe how important the states are that states are the fron lines. and we need to keep ou attention here and not get distracted by ron desantis and donald trump and whatever else is happening at the top that s just gonna be absolute madness for the next year. we re keeping an eye on wha rhonda scent this is doing i the state of florida although, you know he s national player. there is a lot happening on th ground we appreciate your tim democratic state senator mallory mcmorrow thank you so much for your wisdom in your thoughts this thank you we s more coming up including my fellow lo o lindell to challenge them to prove a conspiracy theory