26efth. 17 . Yes. What do you come to mean by yes, sir. They got. Security assistan, three e amigos. As well. They cudid. If i said that number was my understanding of ambassador sondlands use of around 270 million. That term thed three people in would that probably be accurate . Charge of ukraine policy during the summer was he, gordon sound about right . Sondland and ambassador volker did they get aid in fy 18 . And secretary perry. When did you come to learn yes, sir. Including security about mr. T giulianis role and assistance . Including security what do you consider his role to assistance. We already talked about the have been . Er i first heard about former javelins and antitank missiles mayor jewgiulianis interest in that they were not able to purchase in previous ukraine in january of this year. Administrations. Have they gotten Security Assistance in fy 19 . Yes, sir. Prior to the 400 million or that was a different phase than what happened during the so that were discussing
gave an interview to john pleasure of the president and that is without question. solomon then of the hill in early march and the campaign was everybody understands that. end quote. launched on march 20th. do you remember saying that? i do and it s true. a corrupt ukrainian president very clearly has that constitutional authority, correct? prosecutor gave an interview to he does. okay. a reporter in the united states well, most everybody apparently and made claims that the understands that. ambassador provided officials butde doesn t include house with a, quote, do not prosecute democrats. in the context of this impeachment inquiry, list. sir, do you have any reason to believe this is true? specifically addressing ambassador yovanovitch, who i know is a friend ofba yours, in i do not believe it was true. alleging an abuse of power in a what is the reputation of the man who made these allegations, sir? a politician of long nationally-televised interview, standing. a memb
leader. he is very confident in his own ask any country to go prosecute or investigate an american citizen for political and abilities and he knows that the personal gain of that president. ukrainian people expect him to be clear and defend ukrainian doesn t it? thank you for the question. firstor of all, i m not an interests. mr. carson. thank you, chairman.in ambassador. i m sorry. my colleague touched briefly on i will repeat i think on the campaign to remove career principle, regardless of the country, whether it s ukraine, diplomat ambassador. the u.s., or any country, the you testified that you were facts of law criminal nexus aware of the campaign of slander should drive investigations by lawsh enforcement officials andt against the c ambassador in is not the role of politicians realtime whiche basically to be involved in directing the unfolded in the media. where do you understand this judicial systems of their own country or other countries. misinformation campaign w
issues that will improve our foreign policy, serve our foreign policy, ensure that taxpayers money is well spent and those conditions are either coming from the congress or from policy decisions stemming from authority congress has given us to make sure that the taxpayers money is well spent or that the receiving country takes the actions in ourke national interest. and youat described in your texted message exchanges that n engaging in a scheme like this is, quote,me crazy. can wequ also agree that it s jt wrong? on yes. why is it wrong? again, our holding up of security assistance that will go to a country that is fighting
correct? correct. the acting deputy chief admission. you testified thaty the iss of corruption infi burisma was the u.s. interest because, quote, thiser is from your deposition. we had made ayo commitment to t ukrainian government in 2014 to try to recover an estimated tens of billions of stolen dollars of assets out of the country. is that o correct? that is a stolen assets that were in the name of the owner of burisma. he was the one who we believed had stolen thesm money. sure. so, the first case, this was the first case that the u.s., the uk and ukraine investigators worked on was against the owner of burisma? that is correct. this was during the obama administration? that s correct. so, forni the millions of americans viewing, the first investigation against the owner of burisma was under obama s administration? mi that s correct.