did they describe kiev as complic complicit. the post reports that their disparaging descriptions did reinforce the president s perceptions of ukraine to the dismay of some of his advisers. quote, over time you just see a wearing down of defenses a former white house official said describing the struggle to contest the influence of giuliani, putin and orban. pause to consider the inl pl implications. the leader of the country was telling this president not to trust ukraine, a country that russia seeks to dominate. joining us is the post john hudson who shares a byline on the story. what exactly happened in these conversations between president trump, putin, and orban. i understand at least one of the conversations orban was face-to-face in the white house and there wasn t anyone else present, is that right? that s right. u.s. officials described to the post an alarming sort of
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well, he says the emoluments clause is phony. he says judges are phony, if he disagrees with them or they happen to be mexican american judges. he says that democrats in the senate and the house are phony if they want to investigate him. he attacks the press, fake news media. he goes on and on, but the emoluments clause is real. it s in there for a reason. it s there to prevent any person holding a position of trust within the united states government from receiving profits and benefits from foreign governments, and he s been in violation of it since day one of his administration, and that s why we sued him. citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington, when i was the vice chair, the second circuit sided with us against president trump. other suits are going forward. he is just wrong about the emoluments clause. he has sought to use his presidency to enrich himself and
especially vis-a-vis foreign policy? it s got to be none other than vladimir putin. i mean, vladimir putin is now, you know, running up and down the syrian border with his military forces opposite turkey, you know, with russian flags going in to abandoned u.s. bases there and making a big propaganda deal of it. he s holding back funding or was holding back funding not empowering ukraine to fight back against russia. fighting within nato allies like turkey. vladimir putin wakes up in the middle of the night and thinks i must be dreaming, this is absolutely fabulous. it benefits nobody more than vladimir putin in my view. according to the washington post this information came from george kent the state department official who testified in front of congress last week. it s so interesting to me because for the last two years, trump, you know, supporters on television and elsewhere have been saying and the president himself has been saying nobody s been tougher on russia than donald tru
claim. more than a month later said he d turn over complete total control to his sons, never speak to them. today complete and total control sounded kind of like an afterthought. i own a property in florida. i was going to do it at no cost or give it free if i got a ruling, but i would have given it for nothing. it s a lot of money i would have given away, like i give away my salary. i was willing to do this for free, and it would have been the greatest g-7 ever, and i would have said to my family because they run my business now, i don t run my business. joined now by a former white house ethics lawyer, richard painter. he s been affiliated with the campaign legal center, left wing group that frequently criticizes the trump administration, he s involved in the pending emoluments lawsuit crew v trump. do you get the sense while the president may have reversed himself he doesn t seem to think he did anything wrong in the first place and said he thinks the emoluments clause is phony.
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