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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:31:00

school we didn t talk about it. reporter: later with michael and elizabeth at school, ellen planned to move the body into the garage. but there was a problem. trying to get him situated to where i could get him a board under him to move him to the garage. reporter: and you couldn t do it alone? i couldn t do it alone. reporter: so you asked your son. so i asked him, yep. reporter: you asked michael to help you move the body? yes. he didn t want to. i asked him, please. he said okay. reporter: 17-year-old michael reluctantly agreed. were you aware you were asking him to essentially help you commit a crime? i wasn t in the frame of mind to believe that as such. reporter: and yet at the time you were willing to do that instead of the other option,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:09:30:00

then the fell down. elizabeth, mike and ellen s 6-year-old daughter was fast asleep in the bedroom. she didn t wake up. but ellen s son michael 17 was in his bedroom and he did. he was calling 911. i told him to hang it up, michael. and he hung up. and he hung up and i sat down on the step waiting for the police to come. but the police never did show. i covered him up. i told michael to get ready for school. i told him i shot mike. you need to just go to school. how is michael doing at this point? i thought he was doing okay. evidently michael was not okay. he skipped school that day, and he told his friend patrick about the horror he had gone through. did you talk to him about this? or from the first minute that this happened, did this sort of

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:08:58:00

it was christmastime. i had a 6-year-old daughter. police looked for calls to 911 and found none. did they have altercations throughout their marriage? i would imagine. most couples do but i have never seen any violent temper in my brother. there are 0 no documented police visits to your house. i know that. a few months later ellen returned the gun to her colleague. he looked at it and her and said where s the bullets. ellen said a friend had taken her to a gun range and showed her how to use it. and detective wilson had so try febreze one. with no aerosols and no heavy perfumes. so you can spray and stay. febreze one.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:08:33:00

we would call missing persons and they would say someone would get back with us. i believe almost in a three year span we had it will toll no contact with the police department. turns out they weren t even looking for most of the time. right. during that time he was not even in the database. it was now 2005. it had been three years since mike snyder left his home, his family, his whole life in albuquerque. no one had heard from me master mechanic, not even his little girl who s 9 years old, a third grader. that was one big red flag for me and maybe the leading one because i knew there would be no way my brother would have ever left his daughter, ever. at the jeep dealership mike worked for ten years, his name was rarely mentioned in conversation. after three or four years of mike being gone, it didn t come

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:08:07:00

candy, soda and give his time to her. everything else stopped. behind closed doors, mike and ellen s marriage was starting to unravel. ellen said mike ooem seemed jealous of her success at work. understand i was promoted to service manager, it basically became hurtful and he was standoffish. ellen says from the time elizabeth was conceived, mime mike had moved out of the bedroom permanently. never slept together again. and so mike and ellen began to live two separate lives in that dream home with their children, but still they stayed together. i still wanted this marriage to work. i didn t want to give up. that is until she learned about this secret, the big secret that would ultimately tear this family apart. i thought after christmas when everything was done that i

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