let s speak to jeffrey toobin. so, jeffrey, to be clear, this is not the january 6th committee testimony, we had senior officials testify there, some of them publicly this is the doj criminal investigation. so the importance of having someone at that level with that kind of vision inside the trump administration, particularly into that plot to pressure the vice president, right, to reject valid votes, what does that tell you about the status of the doj probe? they re looking at whether donald trump committed a crime. i don t think there is any alternative to that interpretation. and these are central questions that have emerged. was there improper pressure on mike pence to reject the election returns? was what was the involvement of the white house in the fake electors scheme and was the crime committed there? was there corrupt pressure put on the justice department? both the both pence officials
democracy. there may be people like donald trump who are so delusional that they believe that nonsense. but the rest of them are cynics, the rest of them are simply riding the wave so that they can stay in office. and they re doing it at the expense of the country, they re doing at the expense of our democracy. and i have a piece today up in the washington post that really talks about the democrats and the rest of the pro democracy movement need a game plan. they need to identify these people, particularly the people who are in a position to affect election returns and election counting. they need to identify these people the, need to call them out. republicans as well as democrats need to target these individuals. so voters know with these people believe in. sometimes people don t really know a lot about senate secretaries of state or attorney generals. they understand the threat and the democrats running against them have to target. they can t just make this a bygone issue and move o