Katy Tur hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Something extraneous to the facts of the investigation just to get them to lie. That is clearly not whats going on here. Mueller has 100 valid reasons to want to talk to trump. What we have here is a perjury risk. Its a great risk. Thats because trump isnt capable of telling the truth, and particularly when he knows he is in trouble if he does. So if itts not a perjury trap, which is a technical term. This audio leaked of devin nunes, its not surprising he is carrying water for the president , but it is surprising he would say on the record out loud, out loud to a number of donors, that it ultimately Doesnt Matter What Mueller comes out with, that sessions Wont Unrecrews Ause and its j. Its just up to us to protect the president. Thats saying if Robert Mueller comes back and says we found conspiracy, we found whatever, it doesnt matter for the republicans . Is that a widely held belief or it is an
points out we ll monitor the first batch of votes the mail-in ballots, the next people who voted early in person, and lastly we ll get the election day voters and so the vote could end up looking very democratic before we start getting those republican election day returns. lastly, hallie, i m looking at these allegations of voter fraud that republicans have, they re unsubstantiated, before any single ballot has been counted so far, and it comes as the polling shows you just put up on your screen that right now those who say no on the recall have a decisive advantage so far and this is again what we saw in 2020, when donald trump was talking about voter fraud, before a single ballot had been counted. mark, talk about the national implications here. i think the national implications are the way that democrats have decided to run this race, hallie. gavin newsom and his allies leaned heavily into vaccine mandates, mask mandates.
is that your experience in covering all of this that antifa is on the same level as the white supremacist movement? that s clearly ridiculous. the white supremacists brought the violence to charlottesville when they showed up there, when they announced that they would have this march. you know, antifa is a bit of a nebulous thing as well. there s only a small faction of antifa who meet violence with violence. most of them are just anti-fascist activists. some of them are involved in labor unions and church groups and community groups. but the bad people on both sides, it s just a ridiculous notion. in the book you write about election day 2016 and you were watching election day returns come in with a man named matthew who you talk about throughout the book. you ve known him for years. he s a white nationalist. and here s what you write. i watched how donald trump s particularly egocentric brand of nationalism which had fed on the
those were the early votes, people who voted for election day. it was trending very much for jon ossoff. numbers my republican and democratic sources were saying would lead him to potentially break that 50% ceiling that would have him win this seat outright instead of facing a run-off in june with a top republican finisher. that has all changed over the course of the last hour and a half as more returns have come in. and those are election day returns. of course, republican voters here having to decide among 11 candidates. instead of having one person consolidate their field. so the republican thinking was, okay, that s going to break later. and so far it s looking like it has. and this is trending towards a run-off at this point, lawrence, although we do not know that yet definitively. a lot of this vote is still out. historically these counties have counted their vote rather slowly. we are expecting we may get some in here before the end of the next hour that will let us be
who is there at the campaign headquarters. what is the latest that we have on this? lawrence, there has been a little bit of a shift just in the course of the last 90 minutes or so. when the first votes came in, those were the early votes vote people who voted for election day. it was trending very much for jon ossoff. numbers my republican and democratic sources were saying would lead him to potentially break that 50% ceiling that would have himin this seat outright instead of facing a run-off in june with a top republican finisher. that has all changed over the course of the last hour and a half as more returns have come in. and those are election day returns. of course, republican voters here having to decide among 11 candidates. instead of having one person consolidate their field. so the republican thinking was, okay, that s going to break later. and so far it s looking like it has. and this is trending towards a