now, if there s any other alternative, as a member of congress i don t know what it is. as someone who advocated for anita hill, if ford did end up testifying what advice would you give her going into it? i think she has been able i think dr. ford has been able to tell her story to professionals, that is to say, to a therapist. she apparently spoke to her own congresswoman and told her story there. she is herself apparently a very intelligent professional. so i would just say to her tell it straight. tell it the way you ve been telling it to all those who say they believe you. congressman norton, appreciate your time. thank you. i want to broaden the conversation. back with us tonight is former federal judge nancy gertner. now a elect yourer at harvard university s law school. there is cnn political analyst gloria borger and david gergen. judge gertner, when you hear