of 10 individuals who represented a wide spectrum of white nationalism. and what i came out with, i called it the new white nationalism because there was a new white leader that was well educated, very articulate, who was espoused in racial violence or using racial epitaphs, but they were using the language of multi-culturallism and identity politics to argue that white was like any other group and that white people were being discriminated against and that white people needed spokes persons. and i knew that they had the potential to expand because they were addressing issues that i think a lot of americans cared about but mainstream politicians were egg poring. and so this is very different from the old style white supremacist, associated with the kkk and the neo nazis.