there wasn t even a middle in sight. but now, we are in the middle of the case, because wrestling with the question of what effect torture has on the admissibility of statements is really the heart of the case. but that s where things are stuck. all the while the family members of those killed in 9/11 wait for resolution, and the detention centre here looks no closer to shutting down. and every time there are these pretrial hearings involved in 9/11 suspects family members of victims of the attacks are invited to come and observer proceedings and indeed some have been here this week. they have talked about how difficult it is to sit so close to men accused of involvement in killing their loved one, they have talked about frustration, about how after all this time they don t a trial date for those men and it is all the more