joining us now, msnbc ca political contributor eugene daniels. he is a political coauthors playbook also with us, eddie crowl, reporter at republica. he is the author of a death on w street, the murder of seth rich in the age of conspiracy. andy, sorry to get the boo title wrong. new york reporting - they were desperately searchin for the perfect lawyer, an that times were framed as search for another roy cohn. i wonder what that tells you about the trump s defense team about his confidence in hi defense team, just this idea o a perfect lawyer for a perso who notoriously does not liste to his lawyers i think this gives us som insight into the sense of feeling of being besieged and feeling of the walls closing i for a former president trump and for people in his orbit. it is not just the da s case i new york, it is not just the fulton county case, it is also