and that s what happened. so you went into that meeting to discuss this case. do you think sean spicer knew that s what the meeting was about? you know, i don t know. but if you listen to what ed butowski says, sean spicer knew about it. no, ed butowski said sean spicer didn t know about it. he just took the meeting as a friendly gesture because he knew them. let me say and there was presumably nothing else going on that day in the white house for mr. spicer. there s room for speculation. this is not the first time we have heard about a white house official taking a meeting they say they didn t know anything about but went to anyway, but this is not the court of public opinion. in a court of law you only know what you show. you have to demonstrate what sean spicer if you re going to include the white house in a concocted scheme, you have to show they knew about it and wanted to advance it and there s merit to the suggestion that the president of the united states
information this is important here. i get the information about this federal investigator from who? malia zimmerman and ed butowski. that was my source for them. when i asked about the federal investigator i asked was this guy credible, the response was yes. after the story broke and this is important, quickly, chris, after the story broke i immediately, i didn t waste time, challenged malia about the quotes she put in the story. i asked her to contact the federal investigator to talk to him and to give his information to the d.c. police and i was told i could not talk to this guy. one quick thing for you, jean. i know the lawyer here is usually ignored in these interviews, not tonight. proof that he was misquoted, i know it is a little tricky. you could look at it as a demonstration of a non- existent fact. but is there anything you can show in the lawsuit that will demonstrate your client was misquoted? sure. i mean aside from the fact that we have a 33-page complaint that
don t just put every single thing into a complaint, and, you know, if it comes to a point after discovery and we need to amend the complaint, then that s what we will do. 33 pages, you don t leave a lot out either though, counsellor. that s a pretty healthy complaint. there s plenty more information and i assure you of that, and it will come out. rod can attest to that. rod, you said something earlier i want to pick up on. you talked about your shirts. by the way, it is a nice shirt. right. objectively stated. hey, i got it at macy s. ed butowski says that s what the meeting with sean spicer was about. are we ready with that sound? all right. here is what he said. my conversation with sean about this recording lasted about one minute. he said, ed, i don t know anything about it, i didn t want to know anything about it, i can t do anything, and we ended up talking about many other things, believe it or not, including because he and i both get our shirts at the same place
had seen the article and wanted it advanced. do you have any proof to do any of that? we just filed the lawsuit as you know on the 1st, and defendants are entitled to answer and then we will proceed to discovery and we will obtain that information that we believe is out there and weill prove rod s story. do you believe the president of the united states was aware of this piece? i have no idea. all i can tell you is what butowski told me. that s the fact that the white house is all over this and the president wants this out. matter of fact, even with regards to the quotes, he said the quotes were left in there this is what he said and we have it on tape. so i m not just saying this. he said the quotes were left in there and the story because that s the way the president wanted it. now, i never heard the president say that. that s butowski talking. take it for what it is worth. i have a problem with that, but you know the main thing here, chris, and i know we don t have a lot of
the president just read the article. he wants the article out immediately. it is up to you but don t feel the pressure. he says, this was a joke. here is his answer. rod wheeler had been asking me for a long side and said, ed, when i get this case settled the president is going to hire me. he was always doing this and saying this to me, so this was tongue-in-cheek talking, just texting. it wasn t serious because rod wheeler was always looking from a job because he has no money. by the way, this lawsuit is all about rod wheeler trying to get money because he messed up. two buddies joking and you re broke. rod wheeler, your response? well, here is what i will say to that. i want to be clear about this, and i hope mr. butowski is watching. look, because i don t have three million dollars laying around the house like he does, that doesn t make me less of a person. just because i don t get my shirts custom made and i buy my shirts at macy s, that doesn t make me less of a person.