changes, stop eating meats, stop flying, stop driving, stop using air conditioning. in other words, stop much of what makes us modern. my next guest is here to tell us that s all wrong. i ll let him explain. his latest book is more from less, the surprising story of how we learn to prosper, using fewer resources and what happens next. andrew, explain the pieces of your book briefly. briefly, i wrote the book because in america we ve turned this really important corner, our economy continues to grow, population continues to grow but year after year now we take fewer resources from the earth, total amount of steel, copper, ten, water, that america consumes is going down year after year. we finally decoupled economic growth and prosperity growth from taking stuff from the earth. it s never happened before. i think it s an important transition. you see alan greenspan, the former fed chairman, used to say