the closest thing is some of the similarity in tactics in terms of what jecobus was hit with. e-mail hacking we know is something the russians engaged in during the campaign. the social media trolling and harassment that she was subjected to that s been covered by a number of media outlets at this point. but all of that is quite circumstantial. and if there s a smoking gun direct link to russia here, it has yet to emerge. ben, reporter at politico.com who s been on this story from the beginning and who has absolutely got me sort of on the edge of my seat about this. i can t wait to figure out what lies under this latest reporting on this case. really appreciate you being here tonight. call us as far as you figure it out, okay? yeah, absolutely. will do. thanks, ben. we will be right back. do. thanks, ben. we will be right back. then you might have a common condition called dry mouth.
other investigators investigate her sexual assault allegation. the letter they sent to chuck grassley speaking of death threats directed at dr. ford, e-mail hacking, online harassing. we are hoping to hear from chairman grassley or other members tonight. so laura, if both ford and kavanaugh stick to their stories and there isn t some kind of investigation, it basically just both testify publically, it ends up being a question of who do the senators believe. correct. again, this is not a fact finding investigation. they are a political panel. their role is supposed to be in this event to say who do we believe, a credibility assessment. when you have a he said she said, what would help if you had corroboration to bolster the credibility of the accuser or of the person who is accused. the investigation as the attorney for dr. ford said was the hearing should not be a
we asked after we heard some of those stories whether he stood by his testimony. his lawyer said yes. but it seems like mr. cohen is now willing to perhaps tell all to mueller. i understand to our committee, so my hope is we will have a chance to have him back and ask him about that, the trump tower meeting, ask him about the attempt to try to build a trump tower ain moscow that he was involved in. and one of the more critical questions which his lawyer alluded to, that he has knowledge that mr. trump knew of the russian e-mail hacking and potentially was coordinating some of that release. i don t know what to believe. again, when you re talking about cohen and mr. trump in terms of both of their willingness to tell the truth, you get into a fairly shady area. hey, would you be willing to give him full immunity to testify before the senate intel committee in an open hearing? we have not granted immunity to anyone. my understanding is that at
wiretap and, again, this was used for russia s agenda to impact our election. now, you know, it has become pretty common to ask if this scandal is worse than watergate. in terms of size and duration, today, mueller s indictment says, yes, this wasn t some third-rate cyber burglary. this was a big, long-term operation from a nuclear-armed foreign adversary of the united states. so that s one way to answer the question. now, in terms of whether there was top american involvement, mueller s indictment does not answer that question of whether it was worse than watergate in that sense in today s filing. we know that scandal toppled the presidency not only because of the crimes committed, but obviously because of who knew about them. the president. today s indictment states that the russian e-mail hacking began the same day candidate donald trump asked for it with russian agents making their first attempt to access clinton s personal e-mails on july 27th, 2016.
talk about the impact this has in the real world. to clint s point, doesn t it make it harder for anyone to talk to our law enforcement. that s right. i think you have to pull out a little bit from the ruckus here and recognize what an extraordinary moment we are in right now. of course we have been living through an intense year and a half. yeah. but this moment feels like more than what we have been through before. the backdrop of the former fbi director tweeting that is that the fact that the president was ordering an investigation into his own investigators. he was ordering the justice department this weekend to look into steps the fbi took in 2016 when they were starting to look into all of these mysterious contacts with suspected russian agents that emin of the trump campaign were having at the same time that russia was interfering to help trump win the election. one of those things was they took a former republican official and had him go and talk to those members to see w