what i am about to tell you may be the most terrifying story you have ever heard. they were not like other kids. they were smarter. more self reliant. they blended into society claiming its destruction for when the baby boomers retire and collects social security they will take all of the money from this country. neil: what is more scary? ignoring the problem? or facing it? heather, what was that ad about? guest: thank you very much for having me. the ad was really our effort here with our fiscal security, the joint project we are working on, to take a little bit of the air out of the deficit and
3rd only raised $47 million in pac money which is supposedly voluntary. this money and the $40 million, the national education association is talking about and $44 million s.i.u. is talking about is coming from union members as a condition of their employment. and they turn around and spend it on politics in causes the members object to. that is an outrage. neil: what do you make of the white house argument about the chamber money that car exceeds whatever is being done. guest: here is how we break it down. i don t believe this is the right way. we do it on a partisan basis. take the top 20 political action committees reporting their donation and 74 percent of that money went to the democratic
the use of union dues for political campaigns, period. mark, this is the foundation the governor and i have a different view on. when you are a public union and technically you represent public workers, workers, who are there for the taxpayer, it is a more slippery slope, is it not? guest: well, yes, it is. but here is the difference. we spent $87.5 million but the top two other unions put in another $80,000 so $171 million that unions claim credit for. and the difference in the money is important. the chamber money is voluntary. workers and unions, many workers and unions are required as a condition of employment, fund the general treasury of the unions that turn around and spend the money on politics. we are not talking about politic action committee money because all the unions through october
we learned one of the largest groups paying for the ads, regularly takes in money from foreign corporations. the groups that receive foreign money are spending human sums to influence america s elections. and they will not tell you where the money comes from. neil: now we get to the other influence of money. we pick and choose what money is good. guest: there was no bit of evidence there was any foreign money going to the chamber of commerce other than businesses in america that had multinational corporate ties. there was never an apology or correction and new york times jumped all overtime chamber as if they are engaged in an action to give money to candidates but the public employees union, there is no problem with that whatever. it is duplicity that is
party including nine major unions, corporate and trade association pac s. and 26 percent went to republicans. so, the idea that somehow big business is dwarfing union money, from a partisan standpoint it is one place but organized labor spends $1 billion this cycle on federal elections alone. we have $171 million, just from three of the 56 unions affiliated with the afl-cio and five associates with . neil: that is panic money, a union mentality like a wounded animal they have to strike out here or they will be struck out. what isepth and broad nature of this funding tell you about election year and where the money is targeted? guest: you and the governor lit on the public sector union,