nat li, let me natalie, let me start with you. dunn shot ten times, three times as the teen east suv was driving away. three shots at davis alone. were you surprised dunn was not convicted of first degree murder? yes, i was. you usually have more to say. you sound pretty muted. i was surprised like everyone else. this verdict really hurt. we know the kids did not have a gun. we know there was no reason for him to shoot at all. we know he was not feeling threatened because there was no gun. so it was an imaginary threat. how do we protect our children if we have to protect them from imaginary threats all the time? and from people running to them. this was a mind your business. he went to these kids and told them to turn down their radio. mark, what is your take on this? do you agree with her in this case? or no? i think that this was a frustration for black americans because i think they looked at the dunn case as being an
charge him for whichever charge they feel they can prove. i think they felt they could prove first degree murdmurder. you have a man who testified that he reached into his glove compartment, unholsterred the gun, shot, got out of his car, repositioned and shot again. that is premeditated murder. you think they made the case? mark, no? they did not make the case. this is never a first degree murder case. i think if we took away the racial component of it which we should if looking at the elements of the crime, two strangers came up to each other. this is a case where michael dunn came up to jordan and he asked him to turn down the music. let me finish. they came to each other and we know that in circumstances where the parties don t know each other it is very difficult to
that he told his girlfriend that he saw a gun. his girlfriend said he never said that to her. i think that there is a case for first degree murder. you and i will just disagree. mark, we will. i hope you both will come back. i know obviously as this decision is made there are a lot of questions. we invite your feedback on the case. what do you think of that issue, if a man reaches into the glove compartment and shoots multiple times, as happened in this case, is that first degree murder or not? the author of harry potter makes an announcement of her next book and we think it is ridiculous. and a reality show pastor s final act of faith. did he really have to die? when i went over, the lord spoke to me and said he s gone. thinking up game-changing ideas, like this: dozens of tax free zones across new york state. move here. expand here. or start a new business here.
opportunity to sort of get an indictment on the american justice system because of the way it has been treating young black males and missed the opportunity with the dunn case. i can understand that frustration. i think it was also sort of presented the same way with the charges to george zimmerman. i think it was less of a reason for that. i think much more of a bad fit. but in this case i can understand the frustration. i think the jury really thought the case through. i think the three attempted second degree murder charges were appropriate because at the very least the last three shots that dunn fired were never justified under almost any set of circumstances. but i do disagree with natalie a little bit in that the facts of this case, at least from what the state presented, did not show a clear-cut case of dunn having no reasonable fear whatsoever. i think it is a little more questionable than that. i think the jury was very
he went to these kids and told them to turn down their radio. mark, what is your take on this? do you agree with her in this case? or no? i think that this was a frustration for black americans because i think they looked at the dunn case as being an opportunity to sort of get an indictment on the american justice system because of the way it has been treating young black males and missed the opportunity with the dunn case. i understand the frustration. it is presented the same way with the charges to george zimmerman. i think it was less of a reason for that. i think much more of a bad fit. in this case i understand the frustration. i think the jury really thought the case through. i think the three attempted second degree murder charges were appropriate because at the very least the last three shots that dunn fired were never justified under almost any set of circumstances. but i disagree with nathalie a