To Work Together that police had to find a way to engage with communities who previously didnt want to know them you had schools trying to bring people together where parents were looking at them saying what are you doing you had interfaces river throwing stones and how to cut that down to the way he was actually very broad this been 20 years of trying to find the cracks i think it was the space to have that dialogue i mean a little yourself your father will very influential in. The column you look community but the bust be in the model of the last be space is taking place in the political arena with politics between communities on lane well how do you find the space where people could harm that dialogue i actually think youre talking about the actual definition of what we mean by the Peace Process which is when things are really hot i have to say this basic become narrower and narrower and narrower theyre only the small spaces i think that was their experience and cornmeal it was hard