does joe biden and i think in showing vulnerability and showing some humility, that was very appealing to that age group. the older age group tends to be, okay, biden put your case out there. i thought biden could have conceded in a racist way. if you look back at the context, i was not a perfect senator, i got some things wrong but i always worked to be on the side of the angels on race. i do think instead of being so defensive, and rat atat, here s the five or six things. showed a little more humanity and self-awareness about the way that the national conversation has changed. bob, does that mean yes, of course. can i say something about that. i had the great honor of working on the fifth circuit during the period where these cases were being decided and the debate of the day was going to say du jour versus de facto segregation.