he must have held while incarcerated and what it took to get him out. . it s a very good question. when you think about the sinaloa cartel it s a very sophisticated organization. a multibillion-dollar organization across the world and well equipped to organization this kind of escape. now, when you think about the resources that they put in place here somewhat between $3 million and $5 million in place to build this tunnel position about the other escape plans that were already there and didn t work out beforehand. and then you begin to think about the capacity of el chapo and his organization to bribe and corrupt those within the prison system to make this possible. it s a very impressive achievement. i d like to say that i was surprised by it. i m shocked by this but perhaps not surprised. i mean this is a man who was able to not only run his drug
he has a drug empire that reaches at least ten countries. he has the resources and the people to back him up. what was mexico s reasoning for not extraditing him? reporter: they consider they can handle their own security issues. the government had been very successful in the last months in detaining reputed drug lords. but in this case it has a lot to do with sovereignty internal pressures and the fact they think can do it. that might change the equation if guzman is recaptured soon and alive. they hope it will be soon because last time again it was 13 years that he was on the lamb. thank you very much. also today, as we were just discussing u.s. attorney generally loretta lynch expressing concern over his escape pleejing the support of the u.s. government to bring about his swift capture. remember it was a very joint mission by the u.s. and mexico that was able to finally,
used to escape before his eventual arrest. allegedly led the cartel and build a drug empire, they say. spreading throughout north america, europe and australia. the security committee chairman hopes mexico will cooperate with us so he can be held accountable for the drug crimes in america. the fact is he escaped the mexican jail in 2001. my argument is he ought to be brought to the united states, put in a super max prison where he can t escape and face the ultimate criminal penalty in the united states. joining us now, the chief of narcotics at the u.s. attorney s office. he is a member of rudy giuliani s law firm. man, a man, did you ever think you would see a day when this guy would be nabbed? this is huge. on the level of pablo escobar. he has probably been the cause of more deaths than mohammed.
security guards that turned on him. are the nos say guzman s drug empire reaches as far away as europe and australia. the national governors association is gathering in washington this weekend and it s the the second day of its annual winter meeting today. one of the main talking points there we understand are federal policies versus states rights. and this evening the governors will attend a formal dinner at the white house and will return tomorrow to meet with the president. among the governors currently meeting in washington, scott walker of wisconsin. today on fox news sunday, chris wallace was talking with him about e-mails released this past week. those e-mails are raising questions about just what governor walker knew or may have known about public staffers of his office working on political campaigns during government time. here s what he had to say about it. if you look at the facts, this is old news.
i kill you old man. know what i m saying? take that, bitch. at their height during the 1980s and 1990s, the gangster disciples built a highly structured drug empire thanks to the rise of powder and crack cocaine. you don t know my mother [ mute ] real name. but as they were cracked down on, their ranks splintered and they spread from the inner city to the suburbs. because they re one of the largest street gangs, we see them more frequently. a lot of times they won t even say they re affiliated with a gang. it s up to us to try and learn who these guys are. it s not like it was in the 80s or in the 90s. it s very loose and very fluid and that s how you have that much internal conflict inside the gang. it was never like that before.