we bring in dave zirin, sports editor at the nation. dave, some have called for the death penalty for penn state s football team. we have certainly watched innocent teaming were or seemingly innocent teams throughout the history of the ncaa and college football or basketball have entire dream seasons annihilated because one player or a few players took some money. so there s certainly precedent for collateral damage if the ethics have been breached when it comes to taking money. where s the ncaa on the ethics for child rape? well, the ncaa is nowhere on the ethics of anything. it is not an ethical organization. it s an organization where the president, mark elmert, makes $2 million a year and has 14 vice presidents, each of whom make $400,000 a year, and it s all built on the basis of revenue-producing sports, particularly basketball and football. it s a violation to serve bagels to recruits and have cream cheese.