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we ve seen posturing from people like senator joe manchin who have been clear that they don t think that $3.5 trillion is the number that it will be. they are not comfortable with it being that high. bernie sanders said that he has already negotiated down from his dream number of $6 trillion. so jockeying on that as well. all right. thanks for that. and i m joined by jeff mason. good to see you. so a lot of moving parts here, but basically these two infrastructure bills might also get bogged down because progressives may not vote for the bipartisan $1 trillion bill because they won t get the full $3.5 trillion in the second bill. so what is the political calculation on all this, will there be a win when it is all said and done? well, that is a great question. certainly president biden could use a win right now, it was a

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