working very directly, but it s like dropping grains of salt on the beach. reporter: penn s group has just begun using heavy equipment to clear a neighborhood so some of the people in this camp can return to their old homes. he would also like to see other funding used for new communities to be built outside port-au-prince. you re saying removing the rubble here with heavy equipment, but also getting people places that they can live outside of port-au-prince. yes, yes, both. whatever it is, 1.8 million. there are camps that are on hillsides like this that still have no lighting, have no drainage mitigations. their whole neighborhood is in rubble. people in the states say look, i gave money six months ago and look, it s all still the same. and i shouldn t give any more money. well, i say no, that s not true. because if you gave money because you care and you have anything to scrap up, if you don t trust an ngo, find a family to adopt. get in touch with your ngo. i ll find you
there are some ngos that are working very directly, but it s like dropping grains of salt on the beach. reporter: penn s group has just begun using heavy equipment to clear a neighborhood so some of the people in this camp can return to their old homes. he would also like to see other funding used for new communities to be built outside port-au-prince. you re saying removing the rubble here with heavy equipment, but also getting people places that they can live outside of port-au-prince. yes, yes, both. whatever it is, 1.8 million. there are camps that are on hillsides like this that still have no lighting, have no drainage mitigations. their whole neighborhood is in rubble. people in the states say look, i gave money six months ago and look, it s all still the same. and i shouldn t give any more money. well, i say no, that s not true. because if you gave money because you care and you have anything to scrap up, if you don t trust an ngo, find a family to adopt. get in touch
they want to be the lead but they don t have the courage in most cases to take it. there are some ngos that are working very directly, but it s like dropping grains of salt on the beach. reporter: penn s group has just begun using heavy equipment to clear a neighborhood so some of the people in this camp can return to their old homes. he would also like to see other funding used for new communities to be built outside port-au-prince. you re saying removing the rubble here with heavy equipment, but also getting people places that they can live outside of port-au-prince. yes, yes, both. whatever it is, 1.8 million. there are camps that are on hillsides like this that still have no lighting, have no drainage mitigations. their whole neighborhood is in rubble. people in the states say look, i gave money six months ago and look, it s all still the same. and i shouldn t give any more money. well, i say no, that s not true. because if you gave money because you care and you have anyth
been sent. president clinton said they re not coordinating with his commission, why is that? i think that s as basic as people want to be the first or they don t want to see it done at all. i think they want to be believed, but they don t have the courage in most cases to take it. there are some ngl s that are working very directly and doing it, but it s like dropping grains of salt on the beach. penn s group has just begun using heavy equipment to clear a neighborhood so some of the people in this camp can return to their old homes. he d also like to see other funding used for new communities to be built outside port-au-prince. removing the rubble here with heavy equipment, but also getting people places that they can live outside of port-au-prince? yes, yes. both, because there s whatever it,1.8 million, there are camps that are on hillsides like this, that still have no lighting, have no drainage mitigations, their whole neighborhood is in rubble. people in the states say,
also getting people to places that they can live outside of port-au-prince? yes, yes. both, because there s whatever it,1.8 million, there are camps that are on hillsides like this, that still have no lighting, have no drainage mitigations, their whole neighborhood is in rubble. people in the states say, look, i gave money six months ago, and look, it s all still the same, i shouldn t give any more money. well, i say no, that s not true. because if you gave money because you care, and you have it, anything to scrap up, if you don t trust an ngo, find a family to adopt. get in touch with our ngo, you don t have to give us the money, i ll find you a family to adopt, i ll give you their number. don t stop giving, we need it. sean penn joins me now for the big 360 interview. you ve been here pretty much nonstop for the last six months. when people say they don t see progress on the ground, what do you say to them? well, first of all, you a disaster that was beyond anybody s exp