madden, they were going to draft ray on the first round, and what i remember is like it was yesterday, madden had flown in to baltimore because he wanted to meet with ray and i remember walking out to practice and there was madden with the short sleeve and all of that and sitting down at the 50 yard line like they were having a picnic and they were just talking. he wanted to get to know him. and i can t get that image out of my mind. they subsequently drafted ray in the first round and i think that the thing that i became a raiders fan that day because they had a whole lot of hbcu people on the team. and from then to the broadcast booth, what stands out to me about madden is that he was just a good guy and a fair guy. you know, and that is a lot to say about somebody. he was just a fair person.